Warrior General Games

Originally posted by Dub ADD
oh, ok...

that's fine then

whats yours is mine and whats mine is mine.

I'll evaluate everything when looking at your dot's build. Unlike most of the so-called experts who only pretend to understand how to build well, I recognize that everything is a trade-off and there isn't just one formula that gets you to an excellent build. Since I'm not looking to replicate the imitative and ultimately failed approach most teams take, I welcome a fresh approach, as long as it works on the pitch.

So far the people who have responded are mostly overrated builders with limited vision. I'll still look at a dot if one of you think it will stand up but I'm not really looking for the product of you following someone else's build guide thus building a very generic and unimpressive dot. Step up if you feel this description is unfair but I know most of the builders above couldn't make a great dot to save their lives.

Originally posted by Sly
I'll evaluate everything when looking at your dot's build. Unlike most of the so-called experts who only pretend to understand how to build well, I recognize that everything is a trade-off and there isn't just one formula that gets you to an excellent build. Since I'm not looking to replicate the imitative and ultimately failed approach most teams take, I welcome a fresh approach, as long as it works on the pitch.

So far the people who have responded are mostly overrated builders with limited vision. I'll still look at a dot if one of you think it will stand up but I'm not really looking for the product of you following someone else's build guide thus building a very generic and unimpressive dot. Step up if you feel this description is unfair but I know most of the builders above couldn't make a great dot to save their lives.

I got some shitty dots on the back to back WL Champions that are thus far undefeated. Pretty shitty builds play on teams like that!

Exactly. They have some dots get old, figure your generic O-lineman and backup SS are as just about equivalent to everyone else's generic O-line and backup SS options so you get a couple of dots on a quality team and suddenly decide you're a much better dot builder than you are. I'm looking for people who have genuine insight into the game when they build not people who are following a formula and trying to get a couple of unimportant role players on a good team to make themselves feel a lot more important than they are.

i have a blitzing LB that won gold in NAPL, then silver in WL the following season and is first for sacks in WL Zeta.


hop off my dick. you want him and you cant have him.fucking up first step FTW.

http://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4476210

Got a QB, will end with 3 aeq's if your interested. But he sucks lol

Also will buy ceq when he plateaus

Originally posted by Sly
Exactly. They have some dots get old, figure your generic O-lineman and backup SS are as just about equivalent to everyone else's generic O-line and backup SS options so you get a couple of dots on a quality team and suddenly decide you're a much better dot builder than you are. I'm looking for people who have genuine insight into the game when they build not people who are following a formula and trying to get a couple of unimportant role players on a good team to make themselves feel a lot more important than they are.

No one has the genuine insight you possess slylingual. Why you would need dots with eff levels under 1500 is beyond me. You great and powerful. Too bad none of this is true because really your just a coward.

Originally posted by ProfessionalKop
i have a blitzing LB that won gold in NAPL, then silver in WL the following season and is first for sacks in WL Zeta.


hop off my dick. you want him and you cant have him.fucking up first step FTW.

Thanks I looked at your dot since we definitely use blitz LBs as part of our defense. I think this dot is a good example of a dot that some people might consider a good build but which is not the quality of build that we are looking for.

This dot has nearly 160 speed and 15 first step, plus 95 agility 11 break block 10 disguise blitz, and has not ignored other areas - so, for instance, it has 85 tackling and 80 strength. This is a dot that many Pro and WL teams would be happy to sign. It is also a dot built for one purpose: to maximize individual stats in hurries and sacks.

This is what I call an individual dot not a team dot. You are the DC of your own dot and have used him to maximum effectiveness, and he's gotten lots of hurries and sacks most seasons.

But here's some things I look at that other people often overlook:

1) how we'll does the dot hold up against run blockers? There's lots of situations where as a DC it's impossible to predict with any certainty whether the offense will run or pass, and if they run, that blitzing LB just became an important part of the run defense. But this dot does not do well against the run. Over the past few full seasons, he's been pancaked between 40-55 times. Furthermore, last season he had 16 missed tackles against 18 tackles, so when not pancaked he can be unreliable as a tackler. Not sure whether his settings were messed up that season or what but maybe I could accept an explanation for the tackling last season but it wouldn't change the fact that he's always going to be a liability against the run because he can't hold up against run blocking.

2) how well can he cover? Of course since he's a blitz LB you would prefer not to have him in coverage but for almost any D where you have to use blitz LBs in coverage in certain situations. I have to it and I see that you have had to use him in coverage in some situations as well. And the answer is he's really bad in coverage. He allows a huge percentage of completed passes. His jumping is in the 30s and except for his mobility his coverage skills are weak.

As an OC and DC I know that you can't hide this guy on the plays where he 's forced to play the run or cover. A good OC is going to figure out how to run the ball right over him and how to get him in coverage, and when that happens, you'll lose.

So I can't use this dot on my defense. However there are many mediocre coordinators out there, even on pro and WL teams, and one of them would probably be delighted to have a dot that puts up such nice individual stats.

Originally posted by Jay89
http://glb.warriorgeneral.com/game/player.pl?player_id=4476210

Got a QB, will end with 3 aeq's if your interested. But he sucks lol

Also will buy ceq when he plateaus

Generally I like his build direction but not sure he'll turn out better than the guy we have now (probably he won't). Here's some areas where I have concerns:

1) confidence seems low - do you have a plan to get it to, say, 80+?
2) when will you start on SAs? I usually like most of the pocket passer SAs to be at least 9+ so do you think you'll get there?
3) his VAs are really messed up and it will take several seasons to fix everything, so maybe check back with me when he's completed and most of the VAs have been fixed?
4) are you planning to at least train carrying? I prefer to minimize QB fumbles myself. I understand carrying is very low priority but don't think it should be completely ignored.

Originally posted by Sly
Generally I like his build direction but not sure he'll turn out better than the guy we have now (probably he won't). Here's some areas where I have concerns:

1) confidence seems low - do you have a plan to get it to, say, 80+?
2) when will you start on SAs? I usually like most of the pocket passer SAs to be at least 9+ so do you think you'll get there?
3) his VAs are really messed up and it will take several seasons to fix everything, so maybe check back with me when he's completed and most of the VAs have been fixed?
4) are you planning to at least train carrying? I prefer to minimize QB fumbles myself. I understand carrying is very low priority but don't think it should be completely ignored.

I understand where your coming from with all that stuff, heres my plan and why:

1) Confidence is low and overrated, and fuck no i dont plan on taking it to 80+ lol
2) SA's will be ok, working on them now.
3) VA's probably are screwed up, oh well.
4) Fuck carrying. My last QB played 12 seasons, only fumbling 6 times (never more than 1 in a season) and he ended with 23 carrying.

Like i said, im really trying to stick with low confidence and carrying. I will see how it works out, or he will retire. either way idc

Well carrying not only can help you hang onto the ball, it can also help you avoid being tackled/sacked.

Your QB had a lot of bad throws last season - think confidence might have a part in that?

Originally posted by Sly
Well carrying not only can help you hang onto the ball, it can also help you avoid being tackled/sacked.

Your QB had a lot of bad throws last season - think confidence might have a part in that?

Yea. Mainly because his morale was shit all season. The team hes played his career out with doesnt win a lot of games, or really try to. So i dont really look at his stats when trying to gauge how he will play at plateau.

Originally posted by Sly
Thanks I looked at your dot since we definitely use blitz LBs as part of our defense. I think this dot is a good example of a dot that some people might consider a good build but which is not the quality of build that we are looking for.

This dot has nearly 160 speed and 15 first step, plus 95 agility 11 break block 10 disguise blitz, and has not ignored other areas - so, for instance, it has 85 tackling and 80 strength. This is a dot that many Pro and WL teams would be happy to sign. It is also a dot built for one purpose: to maximize individual stats in hurries and sacks.

This is what I call an individual dot not a team dot. You are the DC of your own dot and have used him to maximum effectiveness, and he's gotten lots of hurries and sacks most seasons.

But here's some things I look at that other people often overlook:

1) how we'll does the dot hold up against run blockers? There's lots of situations where as a DC it's impossible to predict with any certainty whether the offense will run or pass, and if they run, that blitzing LB just became an important part of the run defense. But this dot does not do well against the run. Over the past few full seasons, he's been pancaked between 40-55 times. Furthermore, last season he had 16 missed tackles against 18 tackles, so when not pancaked he can be unreliable as a tackler. Not sure whether his settings were messed up that season or what but maybe I could accept an explanation for the tackling last season but it wouldn't change the fact that he's always going to be a liability against the run because he can't hold up against run blocking.

2) how well can he cover? Of course since he's a blitz LB you would prefer not to have him in coverage but for almost any D where you have to use blitz LBs in coverage in certain situations. I have to it and I see that you have had to use him in coverage in some situations as well. And the answer is he's really bad in coverage. He allows a huge percentage of completed passes. His jumping is in the 30s and except for his mobility his coverage skills are weak.

As an OC and DC I know that you can't hide this guy on the plays where he 's forced to play the run or cover. A good OC is going to figure out how to run the ball right over him and how to get him in coverage, and when that happens, you'll lose.

So I can't use this dot on my defense. However there are many mediocre coordinators out there, even on pro and WL teams, and one of them would probably be delighted to have a dot that puts up such nice individual stats.

tbh, he is better in run situations than pass situations. im also not the DC this season.

i was also kidding and his build is beyond horrible. take 6 out of first step, a few out of shed block and add Head of Steam or something, bam. much better.

to each their own though. Sacks+hurries+TFLs beats a blitzer who cant do that but can cover imo.

Tbh I haven't really focused on how to maximize speed blitzers because that's not how I use my DBs and my blitz LBs are not so top heavy on speed as many people build.

I have no idea how you think he's in any way effective against the run if you're blitzing him. He might have some run effectiveness if you pulled him back 8 yards off the LOS and had him flow with outside runs, but that's not a good spot to blitz him from and I doubt you have conservative rush tactics on him which would be needed to optimize such a player. I watched some film of him and most plays he's right on the LOS and this season playing right outside the RDE as effectively another lineman. And any kind of off-tackle left or outside left run he gets plowed right over. I wouldn't expect a guy playing mostly on the line of scrimmage with only 80 STR and 95 AGI to be anything but bad against the run and that's what he is. If you have some reason to believe otherwise please elaborate but the many times he gets pancaked and the film that I watched (mostly from the WL loss a couple of games ago) give a lot of evidence that he's bad against the run and, frankly, if his build was effective against the run for a guy that plays mostly on the LOS I think you 'd see teams lining up with all their d-line built exactly the same way as your dot and shutting down the run and I know that's not the case.

Originally posted by Sly
Tbh I haven't really focused on how to maximize speed blitzers because that's not how I use my DBs and my blitz LBs are not so top heavy on speed as many people build.

I have no idea how you think he's in any way effective against the run if you're blitzing him. He might have some run effectiveness if you pulled him back 8 yards off the LOS and had him flow with outside runs, but that's not a good spot to blitz him from and I doubt you have conservative rush tactics on him which would be needed to optimize such a player. I watched some film of him and most plays he's right on the LOS and this season playing right outside the RDE as effectively another lineman. And any kind of off-tackle left or outside left run he gets plowed right over. I wouldn't expect a guy playing mostly on the line of scrimmage with only 80 STR and 95 AGI to be anything but bad against the run and that's what he is. If you have some reason to believe otherwise please elaborate but the many times he gets pancaked and the film that I watched (mostly from the WL loss a couple of games ago) give a lot of evidence that he's bad against the run and, frankly, if his build was effective against the run for a guy that plays mostly on the LOS I think you 'd see teams lining up with all their d-line built exactly the same way as your dot and shutting down the run and I know that's not the case.

well he usually chews up two linemen and lets the DE get the tackle. if i really cared enough i could go rewatch some games and post them. he usually sucks the FB and OT in and sends the HB inside or the HB way too far outside. D also changes from game to game depending on how he is used. he was a lot better last season vs the run but we made some changes with his equipment and VAs.

doesnt matter though. every DC is different and use guys differently. everyone likes what they like.