Warrior General Games

Originally posted by aaasahi

I'd say 130+ speed is enough.


Is 141 speed not 130+ ?

I wouldn't go lower than 140 speed, but that's imo.

130 is just too slow for my taste, especially if you're looking to build a top back.

Originally posted by Bane
Is 141 speed not 130+ ?

Ya, just to say 130 is also usable.

Originally posted by Guppy, Inc
more useful info from captain dumbass.

This was truly a great post.

Originally posted by InRomoWeTrust
I wouldn't go lower than 140 speed, but that's imo.

130 is just too slow for my taste, especially if you're looking to build a top back.

Dpride told me 130 is fine.

For everyone who goes 130 speed... what do u use the extra points on instead of speed?
~100 strength and ~100 carrying seems enough for me. Anymore doesn't seem to bring extra broken tackles, and my PHB with 141 speed already has jumping to 52 and will end with jumping past 64.
I'll also have Power Through, Surge, and LTS at 10+ with some Quick Cut as well to help his agility.

What do u use the points on if not for speed?

Originally posted by MileHighShoes
For everyone who goes 130 speed... what do u use the extra points on instead of speed?
~100 strength and ~100 carrying seems enough for me. Anymore doesn't seem to bring extra broken tackles, and my PHB with 141 speed already has jumping to 52 and will end with jumping past 64.
I'll also have Power Through, Surge, and LTS at 10+ with some Quick Cut as well to help his agility.

What do u use the points on if not for speed?

no hurdle?

Originally posted by Bane
Is 141 speed not 130+ ?

130 gets run down a lot easier than 140. Those 2 numbers aren't similar at all.

Originally posted by ProfessionalKop
no hurdle?

Despite numerous posts of proof shown to MHS he doesn't believe in hurdle because it didn't work well with his elusive back.

Originally posted by Dub J
This was truly a great post.



I agree because it shows just how much I'm in his head.

Originally posted by bhall43
Despite numerous posts of proof shown to MHS he doesn't believe in hurdle because it didn't work well with his elusive back.

he does realize that it is a break tackle SA right???

I prefer spin to hurdle for my PHB.

Originally posted by ProfessionalKop
he does realize that it is a break tackle SA right???

My Elusive back had plenty of strength and carrying and 74.5 jumping along with bt% AEQ.
The SA only works in specific situations and the addition of hurdle to the build did nothing to improve performance. Taking jumping up to 74 had a huge impact on broken diving tackles, but I saw nothing from the actual hurdle SA.

So, I refuse to include it on any build after that HB. Some of u may post replays where it fire, but I contend that the bonus from Hurdle is small and your dot would've broken the tackle anyways.

The only thing that can sway me will be once Aasahi's two nearly identical PHB's on the same team have had a few seasons in plateau. If they can show a marked difference in performance I will re-consider my initial position, but until then I refuse to touch the SA again.

Originally posted by Bane
Is 141 speed not 130+ ?

Originally posted by bhall43
130 gets run down a lot easier than 140. Those 2 numbers aren't similar at all.


thanks for clearing that up