if preseason affects chemistry, it should really affect finances since real life preseason games cost the same as regular season games (at least the last time i went)
Forum > Suggestions > Make Preseason scrims help out with Chemistry issues
Originally posted by jtrav21
Why should there be roster penalties at all. Who cares if rosters are shifted, there is no competitive advantage to have rosters on one given pro team or another.
this!! ^^^^
Why GLB would "deter" a site user from spending more and keep competitive teams strong from day 1 because he has players to add or delete is beyond me???
Why should there be roster penalties at all. Who cares if rosters are shifted, there is no competitive advantage to have rosters on one given pro team or another.
this!! ^^^^
Why GLB would "deter" a site user from spending more and keep competitive teams strong from day 1 because he has players to add or delete is beyond me???
bhall43
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Originally posted by The Avenger
this!! ^^^^
Why GLB would "deter" a site user from spending more and keep competitive teams strong from day 1 because he has players to add or delete is beyond me???
I don't see a problem in the offseason. But I can certainly see the problem mid season where teams move from one league to another.
Then again...no chemistry also allows one to circumnavigate themselves around all the promotion/demotion rules with no penalty whatsoever too.
this!! ^^^^
Why GLB would "deter" a site user from spending more and keep competitive teams strong from day 1 because he has players to add or delete is beyond me???
I don't see a problem in the offseason. But I can certainly see the problem mid season where teams move from one league to another.
Then again...no chemistry also allows one to circumnavigate themselves around all the promotion/demotion rules with no penalty whatsoever too.
bhall43
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Originally posted by Spread-em offense
The current set up just sucks. I understand that when a team turns over half a roster that it should effect them, but right now if a team has a ton of changes, they are screwed until well after mid season.
My proposal is 1 of 2 things:
1. let the 4 current pre- season games add more to chemistry than they currently do.
I may be incorrect but I think you get +1 per day for chemistry to recover and you do not get anything for a win or loss in a pre-season game. In addition to the +1 daily, If you win a pre -season game you get and additional +2 and if you lose the game you get a +1. Playing a game with your team should increase the chemistry.
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2. Let Scrims run during the pre-season increase the chemistry.
Limit it to 5 scrims and you get an additional +2 for a win and a +1 for a loss or tie. All of this being contingent upon a couple of things.
1. Must be a ranked Scrim.
2. Scrim must be against a team with at least a 50 man roster
3. Team has to be a higher ranked team than your team is
4. must be in the same age bracket or higher than you.
Sounds simple and is pretty simple. Would help the teams out that do not have a constant farm of dots pouring in season after season. Would alsoincrease scrims which cost flex points so therefor adding more to Bort's purse.
What happens if you are #1? You can't gain chem cuz you too good?
Is it the first 5 games you schedule or do you get to pick and choose which ones count?
Also the entire point of the preseason is supposed to be for getting your team together. If they wanted to make the preseason count for something there wouldn't be a preseason.
The current set up just sucks. I understand that when a team turns over half a roster that it should effect them, but right now if a team has a ton of changes, they are screwed until well after mid season.
My proposal is 1 of 2 things:
1. let the 4 current pre- season games add more to chemistry than they currently do.
I may be incorrect but I think you get +1 per day for chemistry to recover and you do not get anything for a win or loss in a pre-season game. In addition to the +1 daily, If you win a pre -season game you get and additional +2 and if you lose the game you get a +1. Playing a game with your team should increase the chemistry.
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2. Let Scrims run during the pre-season increase the chemistry.
Limit it to 5 scrims and you get an additional +2 for a win and a +1 for a loss or tie. All of this being contingent upon a couple of things.
1. Must be a ranked Scrim.
2. Scrim must be against a team with at least a 50 man roster
3. Team has to be a higher ranked team than your team is
4. must be in the same age bracket or higher than you.
Sounds simple and is pretty simple. Would help the teams out that do not have a constant farm of dots pouring in season after season. Would alsoincrease scrims which cost flex points so therefor adding more to Bort's purse.
What happens if you are #1? You can't gain chem cuz you too good?
Is it the first 5 games you schedule or do you get to pick and choose which ones count?
Also the entire point of the preseason is supposed to be for getting your team together. If they wanted to make the preseason count for something there wouldn't be a preseason.
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Originally posted by jtrav21
I hate chemistry more than any other part of the game. Id rather get rid of it completely, but short of that this idea gets +1000
I hate chemistry more than any other part of the game. Id rather get rid of it completely, but short of that this idea gets +1000
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Originally posted by Larry Roadgrader
Any suggestion to reduce the effects of chemistry or eliminate it are terrible suggestions--doing so would allow networks to shuffle over entire rosters onto promoting teams without any penalty.
The suggestion above pretends that there is some sort of "tradeoff" involved with deciding whether to play the scrims or not, but in truth any team that wants to win will BOTH play the scrims proposed above WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY putting as bland of an offense and a defense as possible so that nothing of any value is leaked out by having publically viewable scrims.
-1. A really poorly thought-out suggestion
Chemistry hurts independents far more than it does network teams. Indies have to recruit various free agents and sign them here and there until their roster is full. Coalition/network/alliances move an entire roster over at one time and their chemistry recovers much faster than an indie.
Any suggestion to reduce the effects of chemistry or eliminate it are terrible suggestions--doing so would allow networks to shuffle over entire rosters onto promoting teams without any penalty.
The suggestion above pretends that there is some sort of "tradeoff" involved with deciding whether to play the scrims or not, but in truth any team that wants to win will BOTH play the scrims proposed above WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY putting as bland of an offense and a defense as possible so that nothing of any value is leaked out by having publically viewable scrims.
-1. A really poorly thought-out suggestion
Chemistry hurts independents far more than it does network teams. Indies have to recruit various free agents and sign them here and there until their roster is full. Coalition/network/alliances move an entire roster over at one time and their chemistry recovers much faster than an indie.
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It is less about independents vs. networks and more about team stability. The more realistic solution would be reducing roster size and allowing level 79 instant creations now to help the player pool. Sad it has come to that but it is what it is.
Dub J
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You're talking about a day and age when the FA market is absolute shit due to the decline in users. If there were tens of thousands of people playing this game then chemistry MIGHT make sense (not really, though). Punishing teams because they have turnover due to GLB's lack of growth is pants on head.
Dub J
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How does that have anything to do with chemistry?
If you want insta-79s go start a thread about it.
If you want insta-79s go start a thread about it.
bhall43
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The only proposals ITT lead to tons more problems. Many of which are the entire reason rules and chemistry were set in place.
If you can't see how insta 79's and reducing roster size impacts the player market in a positive way I don't know what to tell you?
If you can't see how insta 79's and reducing roster size impacts the player market in a positive way I don't know what to tell you?
Dub J
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You're all over the place.
Get rid of chemistry. All that other shit is for another thread.
Get rid of chemistry. All that other shit is for another thread.
bhall43
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Originally posted by Dub J
You're all over the place.
Get rid of chemistry. All that other shit is for another thread.
Except it isn't as easy as "get rid of chemistry".
You're all over the place.
Get rid of chemistry. All that other shit is for another thread.
Except it isn't as easy as "get rid of chemistry".
Spread-em offense
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While others have said get rid of it which may or may not be a good or bad idea, I still insist that some changes and the ability for teams to use scrims in the preseason that are paid for by the user to help accelerate the rate at which chemistry can be improved for teams.
GLB benefits because flex is being spent and Team owners benefit by no being screwed for an entire season because of bad chemistry
GLB benefits because flex is being spent and Team owners benefit by no being screwed for an entire season because of bad chemistry
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