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Originally posted by DarkRogue
Talking about the pursuit, not the play design.

You have to anticipate the defender running away from making a tackle. ldo

Originally posted by DarkRogue
Talking about the pursuit, not the play design.

pursuit is so much a part of the play design ...

the cb is trying to get to the WR and the te pops him .... you can't expect the cb to always miss that block by the te or rev cake ... even plays designed with outside coverage have the defenders get pc'd ...

Originally posted by toobad4u_00
You have to anticipate the defender running away from making a tackle. ldo

that's true

Originally posted by CowboysAmerica
pursuit is so much a part of the play design ...

the cb is trying to get to the WR and the te pops him .... you can't expect the cb to always miss that block by the te or rev cake ... even plays designed with outside coverage have the defenders get pc'd ...

hes talking about the very end, the trailing CB taking a perfect angle and then makes a sharp right turn... disregard anything that happened prior to the 40-50 yard line going in. The play sucked we know, clearly. The pursuit of the defender at the end of the play is what everyone is questioning. If you see other examples please post them so that it can be resolved. That play went from a 40 yard gain to an 80 yard touchdown because the code made the defender turn sharply at the last minute.

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Originally posted by CowboysAmerica
and see , if the lo had bltz'd , the te would probably not have been able to make the block ....

or would he ??? ...

..... this is GLB after all where offensive holding and blocking from behind are obviously legal and the offenders have 7 ft long arms when doing so ...



nobody is talking about the CB covering WR2

the cb1 closed the gap by a considerable margin by making that move ...

Originally posted by gbororats
nobody is talking about the CB covering WR2



you are so informative ... the problem was not explained until you put your post up minutes ago ... don't be such a smart ass

Originally posted by gbororats
hes talking about the very end, the trailing CB taking a perfect angle and then makes a sharp right turn... disregard anything that happened prior to the 40-50 yard line going in. The play sucked we know, clearly. The pursuit of the defender at the end of the play is what everyone is questioning. If you see other examples please post them so that it can be resolved. That play went from a 40 yard gain to an 80 yard touchdown because the code made the defender turn sharply at the last minute.

I agree with what you're posting except for the last sentence. I don't think that defender was going to make that angle anyway. Pause it when the the runner is at his own 45 yard line. At that point he's vertically a full 1 1/3 dot widths behind the CB. Then pause it when the runner reaches the opponent's 48, which is about 1 tick before the CB makes his cut... at that point the runner is vertically only 2/3ds of a dot width behind the CB. Horizontally the CB has only gotten 3 dot widths closer and has 5 dots widths to go... so he's lost half of his vertical cushion while making up less than half of his horizontal disadvantage... he already was on an impossible angle. I'm guessing there was some point where the inevitable impossibility manifested itself in the code.

ETA: blah blah blah the graphical representation is not an exact etc etc etc, I know, I know. Say what you want about what the pathing looked like to you but I'd bet my ass that this cut was triggered in some way because the CB was already on an impossible angle.

Originally posted by TrevJo
ETA: blah blah blah the graphical representation is not an exact etc etc etc, I know, I know. Say what you want about what the pathing looked like to you but I'd bet my ass that this cut was triggered in some way because the CB was already on an impossible angle.
If that were true the proper adjustment would be to make the angle wider upfield, not to cut it even sharper and come up behind. Like I said, you used to see this a lot and therefore it's probably a relic of some really old pursuit code.

Yup, not saying he would have caught him but you would never turn right there in real football and put yourself farther away from the ball carrier that you're trying to run down.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2391681&pbp_id=435268

great TD, but watch the LOLB in pursuit. He wouldn't have caught up anyway, but the WR attempting to block seems to engage and for some reason this causes the LOLB to just take off to the middle of the field away from the play. Doesn't seem to make sense. Not sure if that belongs here also but figured it may apply, if not I would appreciate the expertise of others in determining why he cut away like that. Not my defense even, but the opponents, but I don't think I've seen that before so am curious as to the explanation.

thanks in advance

Originally posted by El Kabong
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2391681&pbp_id=435268

great TD, but watch the LOLB in pursuit. He wouldn't have caught up anyway, but the WR attempting to block seems to engage and for some reason this causes the LOLB to just take off to the middle of the field away from the play. Doesn't seem to make sense. Not sure if that belongs here also but figured it may apply, if not I would appreciate the expertise of others in determining why he cut away like that. Not my defense even, but the opponents, but I don't think I've seen that before so am curious as to the explanation.

thanks in advance

Looks like he's trying to get away from the WR who is trying to block him from behind

WR probably touched his butt and the LOLB freaked out.

The pursuit of a defender that is able to move down the field and keep up with the ball carrier is awesome, and even more awesome when the defender can run across the field at an angle and still be able to catch the ball carrier.

Almost like the angle gives them more speed

"Oh, he is not going to caaaaaa.... wait, what!? How the...?"


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