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sehorn31
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Here is some from a few World League Teams:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2375020&pbp_id=1918126

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2375035&pbp_id=1926112 and http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2375035&pbp_id=1926186

Here is a good one: http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2375035&pbp_id=1926220

And here, Instead of keep Scraping, he decides to plow right into the LG and LT and gets punked,lol.: http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2374900&pbp_id=2267949

 
InRomoWeTrust
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It's just a vision thing. You can either get higher vision safeties OR put them closer to the LOS (so they are closer to the play).
Edited by InRomoWeTrust on Jun 4, 2013 15:10:52
 
sehorn31
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So your telling me this is a lack of Vision by the FS, lol? http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2375035&pbp_id=1926220 I'll PM the Agent and see if he will tell me his Vision, lol.
 
InRomoWeTrust
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I'm not saying a dot will ever be perfect, but those types of behaviors are mitigated by higher vision. The dot has to pass certain checks to be moving in the right direction. That's all vision-based.

You're welcome to skim through my FS's plays (on Asau). Build should be open. He sits right around ~102 vision after Football Genius. I'm sure you'll still find the occasional slip ups. That's not the point.
 
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Originally posted by sehorn31
On most Plays. He's Set to Zone Deep.


no his personal tactics
 
sehorn31
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Originally posted by ProfessionalKop
no his personal tactics


Don't know because they won't implement a Optional Player Tactics Viewing Option,lol?
 
sehorn31
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He said to me that his Vision is 91.48 with Football Genius, That should be high enough to know which direction the Back is running at least, lol?
 
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Originally posted by sehorn31
Don't know because they won't implement a Optional Player Tactics Viewing Option,lol?


well maybe he has play it safe? he wont go for the INT if his tactics tell him not to..
 
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Originally posted by InRomoWeTrust
It's just a vision thing. You can either get higher vision safeties OR put them closer to the LOS (so they are closer to the play).

It's not a vision thing. I get so tired of people always blaming vision for any odd behavior. It's an issue with coverage coding, but that's such an incredibly hard task that you can't really blame Bort for not doing it perfectly. Coverage pathing works pretty darn well most of the time, which is all we should be asking for.
Edited by jdbolick on Jun 4, 2013 16:18:12
 
InRomoWeTrust
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Originally posted by jdbolick

It's not a vision thing. I get so tired of people always blaming vision for any odd behavior. It's an issue with coverage coding, but that's such an incredibly hard task that you can't really blame Bort for not doing it perfectly. Coverage pathing works pretty darn well most of the time, which is all we should be asking for.


We're not talking coverage (what corey provided). We're talking what sehorn listed (see first post on this page). It's all related to the safety reading the run.
 
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http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2368811&pbp_id=2428206
 
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Originally posted by InRomoWeTrust
We're not talking coverage (what corey provided). We're talking what sehorn listed (see first post on this page). It's all related to the safety reading the run.


safety reads the run...NEXT!
 
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Originally posted by sehorn31
He said to me that his Vision is 91.48 with Football Genius, That should be high enough to know which direction the Back is running at least, lol?


In my observation, defensive players attempt to calculate an intercept point between the ball carrier and the end zone. When a call carrier is moving parallel (or close to parallel) with the end zone line the defender seems to "chase" more than intercept.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2375020&pbp_id=1918126

This is a pretty good example. Before the back cuts the FS is "chasing' him. Once the back cuts upfield the FS attempts to calculate an intercept point (twice) and ends up in chase position (again) and gets blocked by the FB.

Ideally the safety wouldn't get sucked up into the play like that. He would slide maintain backside contain or slide down the line and be in a position to make a play. I don't think that coding is in place and, honestly, would probably be pretty hard to get balanced if it was introduced.
 
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Originally posted by AirMcMVP
In my observation, defensive players attempt to calculate an intercept point between the ball carrier and the end zone. When a call carrier is moving parallel (or close to parallel) with the end zone line the defender seems to "chase" more than intercept.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2375020&pbp_id=1918126

This is a pretty good example. Before the back cuts the FS is "chasing' him. Once the back cuts upfield the FS attempts to calculate an intercept point (twice) and ends up in chase position (again) and gets blocked by the FB.

Ideally the safety wouldn't get sucked up into the play like that. He would slide maintain backside contain or slide down the line and be in a position to make a play. I don't think that coding is in place and, honestly, would probably be pretty hard to get balanced if it was introduced.


Spot on analysis of what I have been seeing IMO.

Meh with the excuses on why it can't be done though. That is football and that is how the game should be played by safeties. An effort should be made to make the safeties react as they would in football.
 
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Like I said, With 90+ Vision, the FS should know which way the Back is running. http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2375035&pbp_id=1926220

Anyway you can it, The FS shouldn't be running the wrong way here.
 
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