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BadgerPhil
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I'd rather keep the Nerfs nerfed.
 
snakes22
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Screens are overpowered imo, HB's should need 80 catching to catch the ball.. Bring back the HBs that fall down!
 
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snakes22
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So it's fair that my powerback with 40 vision and 17 catching can catch screens with ease... ok
Edited by snakes22 on Jun 2, 2013 10:08:33
 
jdbolick
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Originally posted by snakes22
Screens are overpowered imo, HB's should need 80 catching to catch the ball.. Bring back the HBs that fall down!

The one problem with screens is that < 30 catching HBs pull them in too easily and quickly. In real life, HBs with stone hands drop attempted screens a decent percentage of the time, and it makes sense that they wouldn't gather and head upfield as quickly as a guy with great hands.
 
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Originally posted by jdbolick

The one problem with screens is that < 30 catching HBs pull them in too easily and quickly. In real life, HBs with stone hands drop attempted screens a decent percentage of the time, and it makes sense that they wouldn't gather and head upfield as quickly as a guy with great hands.


Yep. I don't think catching ability like a receiver should be required though, but something like 40+ should be a must not to screw it up too often.
 
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Agreed.
 
bhall43
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lol
 
Saris
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^^Translation: I made a hb with far more catching than he needs to catch a 10 yard undefended pass but not nearly enough to win rolls in traffic.
 
snakes22
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fwiw I was the one who tested and suggested changes to stop HB from falling.. I think QBs get a 1000% pass quality bonus on screens which makes them easy to catch. But I think with the recent changes a couple seasons ago to allow blockers to get out front better they now need to pull back the PQ and catch ball bonuses

Edited by snakes22 on Jun 2, 2013 13:31:06
 
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Originally posted by snakes22
fwiw I was the one who tested and suggested changes to stop HB from falling.. I think QBs get a 1000% pass quality bonus on screens which makes them easy to catch. But I think with the recent changes a couple seasons ago to allow blockers to get out front better they now need to pull back the PQ and catch ball bonuses



or whatever vision check it is that causes defenders to run into blockers away from where the screen is going

not that I want screens nerfed, because I don't
 
snakes22
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Fix the pass rush settings so DEs on passive actually follow the screen play
 
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^yea!
 
Dr. E
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Originally posted by snakes22
Fix the pass rush settings so DEs on passive actually follow the screen play


If you cut back on the aggressive pass rush and assuming the DE has a good vision, they will defend the screen better.
 
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Nerf any poster that says to nerf any plays
 
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