Warrior General Games

Originally posted by Donk3yMan
The statement "make sure he has good hands" is exponentially more important for so many other aspects of a HB. In fact the absolute least important thing that it affects is the marginal yardage gained before a fumble.

If a dot coughs the ball up all the time then he is not going to be on a good team. If he is not on a good team then he will not be able to win most rushing yards anyways so it is irrelevant. Seems like a cop out, I see no reason why this should not be exactly like the NFL.


Not trying to "cop out" at all, I will let the dev team know there's interest in changing this stat calculation, I can't say for sure if it will be changed.

Originally posted by Donk3yMan
The statement "make sure he has good hands" is exponentially more important for so many other aspects of a HB. In fact the absolute least important thing that it affects is the marginal yardage gained before a fumble.

If a dot coughs the ball up all the time then he is not going to be on a good team. If he is not on a good team then he will not be able to win most rushing yards anyways so it is irrelevant. Seems like a cop out, I see no reason why this should not be exactly like the NFL.

And I think we all know that regardless of how much you have in carrying, cover up, and not fumble % sometimes you're just going to get unlucky with a roll and cough one up. So I totally agree with this, and since when has the potential of winning trophies had anything to do with stat calculation other than blowout adjusted stats?

There's more to this than just what yards a HB feels he's losing. What about a returner who fumbles? Is he gonna get his yards too? And then there's the whole WR issue... where a caught ball gets fumbled. Does the QB get his yards? Does the WR get his? And multiple fumbles on the same play (have seen this happen as well). Does the guy recovering the fumble get his yards... does he even get a fumble recovery (and subsequent lost fumble)? The issue simply goes beyond lost yards for a HB... and I suspect that is why it is like it is. It'll take more than a "simple fix" to truly clean it all up.

Originally posted by Theo Wizzago
There's more to this than just what yards a HB feels he's losing. What about a returner who fumbles? Is he gonna get his yards too? And then there's the whole WR issue... where a caught ball gets fumbled. Does the QB get his yards? Does the WR get his? And multiple fumbles on the same play (have seen this happen as well). Does the guy recovering the fumble get his yards... does he even get a fumble recovery (and subsequent lost fumble)? The issue simply goes beyond lost yards for a HB... and I suspect that is why it is like it is. It'll take more than a "simple fix" to truly clean it all up.

Not really though, just count fumble plays exactly like a regular play in terms of stat calculation. It actually seems like more work had to be done to count it differently. I don't know how the NFL does all of those situations but I think a receiver/QB should get those yards. Someone who forces/recovers a fumble should absolutely get those stats regardless of what else goes on in the play.

By the way Ellis I wasn't attacking you or anything just voicing what I see to be a nonsensical justofication if that is really their reason for it.

glb might not even currently calculate the spot of fumbles, just the spot of recoveries. new code yo?

Originally posted by EllisBell
from what I am aware of from past discussions it was designed this way, so if you want your player to win most rushing yards, make sure he has good hands

Sorry, but the fact of the matter is that the GLB method of counting (or in this instance, not counting) yards on plays in which the original offensive player fumbles doesn't square with how yardage is calculated in pretty much any version of the real game of football.

You know, really the QB's should get their passing yardage on all drops too, because he threw the ball that far and it wasn't his fault the chump WR is still rocking single digit catching.

Originally posted by DubsOnD
You know, really the QB's should get their passing yardage on all drops too, because he threw the ball that far and it wasn't his fault the chump WR is still rocking single digit catching.


Except there's not a single league of any import that uses such a scoring methodology.

Originally posted by DarkRogue
Originally posted by DiMo28

Just like Tecmo...

I know this isn't the NFL, but doesn't the NFL count the yardage on fumble plays?

but Tecmo Bowl didnt

Originally posted by DubsOnD
You know, really the QB's should get their passing yardage on all drops too, because he threw the ball that far and it wasn't his fault the chump WR is still rocking single digit catching.

And maybe the WR dropped it because of the QB's settings or slightly poor pass, routing etc.

Once the WR catches it the QB's job is over.

Originally posted by Donk3yMan

Once the WR catches it the QB's job is over.


Unless you are Tony Romo and the Cowboys, in which case the throw was behind the LOS and he needs to get his sorry ass over to block for the helpless SOB who actually caught it.

I think there has been enough back and forth discussion here to show that it isn't the cut and dry issue that some may think it is. I am going to lock this thread, but do know that we are aware of the issues/concerns!