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I hope my sexism jokes weren't frowned upon..
 
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Originally posted by GeneralMills92
Originally posted by Jake Rawburst

more like, what an elimination of racist BS. Do you guys actually think there was nothing wrong with that thread?

-Jake


i am never offended when people insult whites or blondes. And we blondes get it alot. its freaking jokes! lighten up!



Well good for you.

Some of the jokes in the thread were ok. But when people start talking all kinds of derogatory shit, about other races, and some dumbshit makes a "joke" about black people hanging from trees is crossing the line. It was It's plain and simple low and offensive. To bad your to fucking thick in the head comprehend that.

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na you can comment all day this will give me something to pass the hours at work

now i am not going to pretend i am not racist - well its not so much a matter of race where my hate/fear is directed, is more of a class of people, i get the same reaction when driving by a group of "thugish" black people, as i do "thugish" white people (although the blacks scare me more cause they got guns )

i personally hate all the racism talk - oh this is racist, oh that is racist, where are my reparations, afirmative action hasn't gone far enough.

are any of the african americans that are alive today been slaves? have any of their parents even for that matter? why do they get special treatment over me or my race? why is it ok for them to glorify the term honky, but when i say black i get raised eyebrows?

People have been hating people since the dawn of time - look back at any period of history and I'm sure I can find a group of people that were either killed/enslaved/persecuted by other people of the time.

I understand some people being sensitive about subjects if they are directly attacking them, if I say ALL mexican familys are poor lazy and good for nothing welfare soaking 15 children having stealing my job mother fuckers...but i don't...i make a random joke that is laughed at, the same jokes that are being written and told by blacks/mexican/asian comedians

if comedy and jokes offend you i am sorry, i'll dig up some Bob Hope for you next time and keep it more mild


Michael Richards defense speech - for those that don't know he played Kramer on Seinfeld, and went off on some black people who were sitting in the audience heckling him the entire time duing a standup routine.

Now I want to clearify - some of these statements are quite extreme and I DON'T AGREE WITH IT ALL, but the middle chunk of that is more where I agree

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/proudwhite.asp



should be a fun afternoon make the time fly before the LA game
 
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Originally posted by K9fiend

Well good for you.

Some of the jokes in the thread were ok. But when people start talking all kinds of derogatory shit, about other races, and some dumbshit makes a "joke" about black people hanging from trees is crossing the line. It was It's plain and simple low and offensive. To bad your to fucking thick in the head comprehend that.




I've wanted to be that blunt for a while, but tried to appeal to the intellect...guess guess your way is more effective.
 
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i mean it makes sense - some of those jokes were definatly a bit extreme, i didnt get a chance to notice the one about a black man hanging from a tree haha

the ones i saw were mostly harmless ones that i heard in 6th grade - the whole throwing a mexican and the black guy off the bridge or outta the plane or whatever
 
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Simple guide to humor:

Jews are allowed to make fun of Jews

Blacks are allowed to make fun of blacks

Mexicans are allowed to make fun of mexicans

Whites can make fun of whites...



Though I always wondered who listened to Imus, now I know. Please, continue with you freedom of speech, if Bill O'Reilly can so can you, if Anne Coulter can so can you. But freedom of speech has limitations when it insults and offends others.

"Por que los pinche gringas sabes nada con el mundo real? solo livros y imaginacion. Venga a Guerrero con mi hente y por favor sin tu computador."

-Jake
 
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Originally posted by Jake Rawburst
I'm going to TRY and not comment on this topic again. But, when I open a thread called "Jokes" and its 10 pages of who hits the ground first a Mexican or a Black guy? That's a bit over the top. It is very indicative of the level of bigotry on GLB, or at least that there are many people that will allow this kind of thinking.

As a white guy, I can tell you that until you experience racism you can only imagine how annoying and frustrating it must be for some. I never thought it was a big deal either, until I, myself was spat on called names and generally made to be felt intimidated by the 'majority'.

It wasn't a comment directed to you 'GeneralMills92', more a comment on how a thread called JOKES, turned into nothing more than racism masked in humor. Why don't you complain to the mods?

By the way, have blonds been forced into slavery? Have whites not been admitted into schools? I am only responding because no one else is. If you are comparing blond jokes (which I believe there were only 2 in the whole thread) to noose jokes and sh*t...You're way off-base.(Straw-man)

My point was that these jokes were in bad taste (obviously if they were removed) and should be told on appropriate websites.

http://cofcc.org/

Maybe send your jokes via email to David Duke, I hear he is still making a mailing list.

But the one thing it helped me identify is that racism is a MUCH bigger problem in some places than others, and GLB seems to have quite a bunch a people with skewed views on what is 'good-taste' and what is bigotry.

None of you are stand-up comedians, or paid professionals so keep your day jobs and please feel free to tell these jokes loudly and proudly (as is your right). I am only exercising mine, and will continue to do.

If you think I have no sense of humor, so be it...I just don't see humor in cracker-ass, scared white boy, gringo republican jokes.

-Jake



I have talked to you (in that thread) a bit on this subject and, for my own actions, I will tell you that I HAVE seen that level of bigotry directed at me. Both in Africa and in Germany. I have had bottles thrown at me, been forcefully denied entrance onto a bus, told I was not allowed to drink from a specific water fountain and been spat upon. With all that in mind, its the intent of the joke, not the joke itself that you should be frowning on. A lot of the jokes were based on stereo-types. And stereo-types DO exist for a reason - because there is a grain of truth in them.

Do the Chinese make their children study hard?
Do a lot of multiple Mexican families live together in the same household?
Do women get cranky during "that week"?
Do Russians drink a lot of vodka?

Now is it unreal to say that there are jokes based on stereo-types and that those aren't racist (as you seem to perceive) but are instead jokes ABOUT the stereo-type?

I would challenge that its not all racism in those jokes, but stereo-typism. Now, were some of the jokes racist? Ya, but when you started to get upset that wasn't neccessarily the case...
 
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I am quite offended that you think I am just a gringo with a computer - that is a racial term and i don't appreciate the connotation that was behind its useage
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Originally posted by FriskyMonkey
na you can comment all day this will give me something to pass the hours at work

now i am not going to pretend i am not racist - well its not so much a matter of race where my hate/fear is directed, is more of a class of people, i get the same reaction when driving by a group of "thugish" black people, as i do "thugish" white people (although the blacks scare me more cause they got guns )

i personally hate all the racism talk - oh this is racist, oh that is racist, where are my reparations, afirmative action hasn't gone far enough.

are any of the african americans that are alive today been slaves? have any of their parents even for that matter? why do they get special treatment over me or my race? why is it ok for them to glorify the term honky, but when i say black i get raised eyebrows?

People have been hating people since the dawn of time - look back at any period of history and I'm sure I can find a group of people that were either killed/enslaved/persecuted by other people of the time.

I understand some people being sensitive about subjects if they are directly attacking them, if I say ALL mexican familys are poor lazy and good for nothing welfare soaking 15 children having stealing my job mother fuckers...but i don't...i make a random joke that is laughed at, the same jokes that are being written and told by blacks/mexican/asian comedians

if comedy and jokes offend you i am sorry, i'll dig up some Bob Hope for you next time and keep it more mild


Michael Richards defense speech - for those that don't know he played Kramer on Seinfeld, and went off on some black people who were sitting in the audience heckling him the entire time duing a standup routine.

Now I want to clearify - some of these statements are quite extreme and I DON'T AGREE WITH IT ALL, but the middle chunk of that is more where I agree

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/proudwhite.asp



should be a fun afternoon make the time fly before the LA game


Dude if you hate all the racism talk then why even continue to talk about it or expand on it? This was about a joke thread that crossed the line, because some people are fucking are disrespectful and ignorant. I will say this, I'm with you in the fact that each race has their pieces of shits. I was a Police Officer for 14 years in an extremely diverse area, and had to deal with the ignorant shit heads of damn near every race on this planet.

Sorry, but not all black folks sit around crying about "Where are my reparations" or complain about the way affirmative action is headed. Sure there is a segment that whines and crys like that, while trying to place the blame on everything and everybody but themselves. And are not willing to takes any responsibility. Just like there is a small segment of whites, who blame Mexicans for stealing jobs in certain areas. But once again IT's A SMALL segment, NOT the whole fucking race who believes those types of things!

Of course the media only exacerbates the situation and helps reinforce peoples negative views or stereotypes of each other. And if you somebody chooses to buy into thatI feel sorry for you.


In any case. I'm done with this thread nothing good will come of it, and people's perceptions of things is their reality, no matter how distorted it may be.

 
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I'll thank you very much not to tell ME when I should be upset about something, as I have not told anyone to stop posting hateful jokes.

A stereotype is:

"something conforming to a fixed or general pattern; especially : a standardized mental picture that is held in common by members of a group and that represents an oversimplified opinion, prejudiced attitude, or uncritical judgment."
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary

Furthermore, you allow this by excusing it. "were some of the jokes racist?Ya, but..."
Which is why racism is so dominant in the US. I am also glad that the Germans, of all people, wouldn't tolerate you level of prejudice. HAHAHAHAHA...

If NAZIS don't like you, time for a little reflection, eh bud?

-Jake
 
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See, now you are putting words into my mouth. Where did I say "dont be upset about this"?

And tell me this - how is a Nazi to know my personality to dislike ME vs my race? They disliked that I am an American, not me as a person. Also I would suggest you finish the sentence by me that you started to quote (but stopped where it suited your argument. Here, Ill help you out!

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Ya, but when you started to get upset that wasn't neccessarily the case...
 
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I said 'Gringa'. Please check your quotes, thank-you. It also has no traditional definition, and as a white person I am permitted to use such derogatory terminology about my "own" people. Especially when they are BEING 'gringas'.

-Jake
 
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And tell me something else - how is your definition of Stereo-types different than what I was saying. Go back to the examples I laid out for you
 
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Originally posted by mykel
Ya, but when you started to get upset that wasn't neccessarily the case...


right there.
 
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anyhow, I am done arguing with racists. See you on the little imaginary football field and hopefully no where else.

-Jake
 
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