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And agility/carrying matter much much more in breaking tackles via spin than strength will ever.

for a QB to do things like a power rusher, AGI/CAR have to be considered but soooooooooooo many factors to look at.....a good way is to find a RQB like you want to do around this here joint and ask for advice....

Originally posted by Homage
Why are you trying to build a rookie team like it's a PeeWee team...

What are you even talking about?

Looking for PW advice,
VA's, SAs, and the future of the build, are irrelevent to me.

If more agi = more btk. And i am looking for 5 guaranteed yards per qb rush. how will the high speed benefit over the high agi.
Can someone prove this. If it is false, than can someone suggest a higher btk RQB build for PEEWEE.

Originally posted by jampysos
What are you even talking about?

Looking for PW advice,
VA's, SAs, and the future of the build, are irrelevent to me.

If more agi = more btk. And i am looking for 5 guaranteed yards per qb rush. how will the high speed benefit over the high agi.
Can someone prove this. If it is false, than can someone suggest a higher btk RQB build for PEEWEE.

you want 5yrds per.......block.....set plays...build him like a power back....won't last as it goes up but will get it done

Originally posted by skibodragula
won't last as it goes up but will get it done

Follow the situation... I obviously don't want to build it like a power back.

which would be better, high speed or high agi please.

speed gets the route hot....blockin' will set it up.......a good RQB should hit the route over the blocks....I mean be slightly ahead to flow.....say an outside roll out weak....O line hits blocks...holds blocks till QB passes behind...now outside the QB faces FS/CB etc.....speed beats them to the edge....now what?.....speed is the key but it has to beat the edge so YES it works and is proven but a move or brktkl is needed to finish

Originally posted by skibodragula
speed gets the route hot....blockin' will set it up.......a good RQB should hit the route over the blocks....I mean be slightly ahead to flow.....say an outside roll out weak....O line hits blocks...holds blocks till QB passes behind...now outside the QB faces FS/CB etc.....speed beats them to the edge....now what?.....speed is the key but it has to beat the edge so YES it works and is proven but a move or brktkl is needed to finish

Hmm. OK, thank you.

How about the others?

How much does agi help a RB/TE/WR etc. I know Agi on a TE breaks a lot of tackles (through personal experience).

Originally posted by jampysos
Hmm. OK, thank you.

How about the others?

How much does agi help a RB/TE/WR etc. I know Agi on a TE breaks a lot of tackles (through personal experience).

Not enough help from agi at this level of play to make chasing it worth while. Let's say you get a 5% increase per every 5 pts difference in agi vs tackle (and I'm not even gonna touch strength, carrying, speed, and tackle angles). Since you can count on most good dot builders to address this as much as you are, then it would take putting in more SP's into agi than feasibly worth the damage to your other skills would endure... in order to achieve what you seek. Especially in PeeWee leagues where builds follow a slightly different path than rookie-style dots. PeeWee's are generally a 1-n-done build league so you do things you wouldn't do with long term builds. And the best in the PeeWee's know that well enough that there's simply not enough margin to achieve a noticeable difference. You can build up your agi easy enough... I seriously doubt you'll see enough of an increase to your BTK that you would KNOW you've made a difference.
At higher levels of play, yes... it shows. But down in the valley most dots simply are too close on their builds to be enough different to make a difference... at least one you notice.

Originally posted by Theo Wizzago
Not enough help from agi at this level of play to make chasing it worth while. Let's say you get a 5% increase per every 5 pts difference in agi vs tackle (and I'm not even gonna touch strength, carrying, speed, and tackle angles). Since you can count on most good dot builders to address this as much as you are, then it would take putting in more SP's into agi than feasibly worth the damage to your other skills would endure... in order to achieve what you seek. Especially in PeeWee leagues where builds follow a slightly different path than rookie-style dots. PeeWee's are generally a 1-n-done build league so you do things you wouldn't do with long term builds. And the best in the PeeWee's know that well enough that there's simply not enough margin to achieve a noticeable difference. You can build up your agi easy enough... I seriously doubt you'll see enough of an increase to your BTK that you would KNOW you've made a difference.
At higher levels of play, yes... it shows. But down in the valley most dots simply are too close on their builds to be enough different to make a difference... at least one you notice.

Ah ok. Thanks

breaking tackles at low levels is pointless, just focus on outrunning and out manuevering

Originally posted by Homage
breaking tackles at low levels is pointless, just focus on outrunning and out manuevering

And how will I do this.

Edit: Without agi

Also,

what effect does energy have on breaking tackles?
Sounds like there should be, but is there a difference between a 100 energy WR/TE/RB and a 25 WR/TE/RB (At the end a long run or something, idk)?
Part 2 would be, does the defenders energy alter the matchup? How about a desperately tired LB coming against a fresh WRTEHB?

Thakns

Originally posted by jampysos
what effect does energy have on breaking tackles?

I'm pretty sure Stamina can help break tackles.

you're forcing way too much on breaking tackles at lower levels... they all have an impact but we don't have any sort of way of quantifying any of this.

and yes there is a difference... all the attributes are diminished. bort has never said this, but a lot of us consider the energy bar a form of penalty. the lower the energy the larger the penalty

same goes for morale

Originally posted by BagO'Chips
I'm pretty sure Stamina can help break tackles.

Stamina or energy?

Im trying all this stuff next season so I just wanna know so i can narrow down on what builds im trying out.