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Originally posted by Diamond Spade
dont understand y yello is still arguing?

y would a player with shitty confidence have high moral after contributing/ or watching his/her team blow a huge lead?

cmon yello ur relapsing.

but they HAVENT blown the lead at this point.

If the other team pulls ahead, okay sure I could see that being an issue to some degree.

But not before.

Originally posted by hatchman
it makes no sense to you because you have teams full of less than stellar builds I am assuming. I would also assume that since you post about you being a coordinator that the coordinating isn't that great either. all these things factor into your teams success's or failure's. and sadly your teams failure's fall squarely on your shoulders.

Teams winning actually. And yes we have most likely benefitted in at least one game from this silly morale system.

Doesnt make it any more or less silly.

Because my team is not the point.

Its the system.

Originally posted by yello1
Originally posted by hatchman

it makes no sense to you because you have teams full of less than stellar builds I am assuming. I would also assume that since you post about you being a coordinator that the coordinating isn't that great either. all these things factor into your teams success's or failure's. and sadly your teams failure's fall squarely on your shoulders.

Teams winning actually. And yes we have most likely benefitted in at least one game from this silly morale system.

Doesnt make it any more or less silly.

Because my team is not the point.

Its the system.

wrong Yello1 your team is the point that is why you brought up this suggestion. you said it yourself you mentioned this because your team blew a lead and lost a game. had your team won the game you wouldn't have been looking for excuses to blame the loss on instead of shouldering the blame yourself.

Originally posted by hatchman
wrong Yello1 your team is the point that is why you brought up this suggestion. you said it yourself you mentioned this because your team blew a lead and lost a game. had your team won the game you wouldn't have been looking for excuses to blame the loss on instead of shouldering the blame yourself.
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I can only post about this from what I see on the morale of my teams, because I do not see the other teams morale.

But that does not mean the problem is only my teams.

Indeed I am not the only one to have posted on this problem before.

Originally posted by yello1
Originally posted by hatchman

wrong Yello1 your team is the point that is why you brought up this suggestion. you said it yourself you mentioned this because your team blew a lead and lost a game. had your team won the game you wouldn't have been looking for excuses to blame the loss on instead of shouldering the blame yourself.
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I can only post about this from what I see on the morale of my teams, because I do not see the other teams morale.

But that does not mean the problem is only my teams.

Indeed I am not the only one to have posted on this problem before.


no but it seems you only find these problems when they don't benefit you or your team. You and I have debated about alot of things on this game and you still seem to miss that most of the problems you and your team face is squarely on your shoulders. and I among others on this game get tired of reading how GLB should change to make it easier on you to win. most of us here put our time into learning the game and how to navigate through most problems on the game. but instead of you doing the same as the rest of us. you feel the need to always ask for GLB to fix something for you instead of you actually doing some work for yourself.

Originally posted by hatchman
wrong Yello1 your team is the point that is why you brought up this suggestion. you said it yourself you mentioned this because your team blew a lead and lost a game. had your team won the game you wouldn't have been looking for excuses to blame the loss on instead of shouldering the blame yourself.

yello wins -> game is great
yello loses -> off to the suggestion forum

but all smart money is on yello being a very elaborate troll

Originally posted by yello1
but they HAVENT blown the lead at this point.

If the other team pulls ahead, okay sure I could see that being an issue to some degree.

But not before.

have you ever partaken in anything competitive at any point in your life?

Originally posted by yello1
What WOULD make sense is a team way ahead being a little less competitive because they lay off. What WOULD make sense is the team coming from behind getting a positive boost for its regained confidence. But saying "OH MY GOSH WE ARE ONLY WINNING BY SIX POINTS!" and pissing in your knickers and losin 25% of your abilities is just frakking dumb.

You've seriously never seen a team do this?

Just from watching Notre Dame football my entire life, I've seen it happen 3 times in the past 3 seasons. The 2010 and 2011 games against Michigan were two great examples: Notre Dame took a sizable lead into the 4th quarter in both games, only to watch Michigan get a couple of scores to shake Notre Dame's confidence. Notre Dame lost both games in heartbreaking fashion.

Then there was this year's game against Pittsburgh, where Pitt had a sizeable lead on Notre Dame going into the 4th quarter, until Notre Dame's offense suddenly woke up and shook Pitt's confidence with a great drive that ended in a fluke turnover and then another drive that ended in a touchdown. Suddenly, Pitt's D no longer believe they could stop Notre Dame, and the Irish pulled out a win in overtime to preserve their undefeated record.

In all 3 cases, you could see that the team with the lead was nervous and afraid even while they still had the lead, while the team that was behind was playing with confidence and aggression even while they were still behind.

You're just plain wrong on this one, yello. You're just plain wrong.

Hell, 2 more Notre Dame examples: the Michigan State games from 2005 and 2006.

In both games, Michigan State had a sizable lead going into the 4th quarter. In 2005, Notre Dame's offense came alive in the 4th quarter while Michigan State's entire team became a shining beacon of incompetence. Michigan State's players looked terrified that they were about to blow it, and didn't look relieved at all until the clock hit 0:00 and the Irish rally had fallen short. But that fed into the 2006 game... Notre Dame came alive again in the 4th quarter despite being well behind, while Michigan State puckered up and had a definite air of "Oh no, not again" about them. And this time, Notre Dame pulled off the comeback with a win.

Again, in both cases, the team that was behind in the 4th quarter was playing confident and self-assured, while the team with the lead in the 4th quarter looked petrified of blowing that lead.

I swear, it really is like you've never watched football in your life. Maybe you do, but you sure as hell don't seem to learn much from it.

Originally posted by Deathblade
but all smart money is on yello being a very elaborate troll

Good grief, this would explain so much.

Originally posted by hatchman
no but it seems you only find these problems when they don't benefit you or your team. You and I have debated about alot of things on this game and you still seem to miss that most of the problems you and your team face is squarely on your shoulders. and I among others on this game get tired of reading how GLB should change to make it easier on you to win. most of us here put our time into learning the game and how to navigate through most problems on the game. but instead of you doing the same as the rest of us. you feel the need to always ask for GLB to fix something for you instead of you actually doing some work for yourself.

I could win World League and there would still be things wrong with this game worthy of complaint and correcting suggestions.

Originally posted by Deathblade
yello wins -> game is great
yello loses -> off to the suggestion forum

Hey sometimes I lose and the game is still great.

If the morales were not screwy, that game is great win or lose. But having put so much effort into bolstering morale and see it so easily torpedoed and that have such an effect, and having seen that so many other times, makes me want to suggest it be fixed.

Originally posted by Deathblade
but all smart money is on yello being a very elaborate troll

How much money?

Originally posted by Deathblade
have you ever partaken in anything competitive at any point in your life?

Yes.

And I never felt like we were losing, until we were LOSING!

Originally posted by Novus
You've seriously never seen a team do this?

Just from watching Notre Dame football my entire life, I've seen it happen 3 times in the past 3 seasons. The 2010 and 2011 games against Michigan were two great examples: Notre Dame took a sizable lead into the 4th quarter in both games, only to watch Michigan get a couple of scores to shake Notre Dame's confidence. Notre Dame lost both games in heartbreaking fashion.

Then there was this year's game against Pittsburgh, where Pitt had a sizeable lead on Notre Dame going into the 4th quarter, until Notre Dame's offense suddenly woke up and shook Pitt's confidence with a great drive that ended in a fluke turnover and then another drive that ended in a touchdown. Suddenly, Pitt's D no longer believe they could stop Notre Dame, and the Irish pulled out a win in overtime to preserve their undefeated record.

In all 3 cases, you could see that the team with the lead was nervous and afraid even while they still had the lead, while the team that was behind was playing with confidence and aggression even while they were still behind.

You're just plain wrong on this one, yello. You're just plain wrong.

Were they nervous and afraid?

Or just not able to work out the change in the opponents game plan and uncertain of what to do defensively to counter it?

And did their nervousness make the run slower?

And - again - you neglect the magic fairy dust angle (the large plusses from promotions and salary). This is not a team that was going in tentative and skittish like a virgin. This was a team bolstered by its coach to be resilient and tough. Giving up two TDs after scoring two of their own before that should not suddenly make them unable to defend the field by undermining their performance by 25%.