That happens to me sometimes when I am tag a scat FB. lol
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sehorn31
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Originally posted by SG✬21
Yeah, that was an untagged game and a classic play was called but hey... He didn't asked for a play where its well defended, he just wanted to see a play that worked well for that offensive play. So I gave him that play
Thx for digging up the Replay but I have things I need to work on instead of chatting in here,lol.
Yeah, that was an untagged game and a classic play was called but hey... He didn't asked for a play where its well defended, he just wanted to see a play that worked well for that offensive play. So I gave him that play

Thx for digging up the Replay but I have things I need to work on instead of chatting in here,lol.

Dub J
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http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2234021&pbp_id=2111575
Don't tell me it's because the FB is too slow or some other jibber jabber.
Don't tell me it's because the FB is too slow or some other jibber jabber.

sehorn31
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Originally posted by Dub J
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2234021&pbp_id=2111575
Don't tell me it's because the FB is too slow or some other jibber jabber.
Your right Dub, That's usually what happens like with the Quick Toss to the HB in the Pro-Set,lol.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2234021&pbp_id=2111575
Don't tell me it's because the FB is too slow or some other jibber jabber.

Your right Dub, That's usually what happens like with the Quick Toss to the HB in the Pro-Set,lol.
SG✬21
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Originally posted by Dub J
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2234021&pbp_id=2111575
Don't tell me it's because the FB is too slow or some other jibber jabber.
Thats all on the HB, no moves at all
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2234021&pbp_id=2111575
Don't tell me it's because the FB is too slow or some other jibber jabber.

Thats all on the HB, no moves at all

Dub J
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Originally posted by bhall43
Anything prior to level 60 is pretty useless to look at.
I love dots. Doesn't matter if it's a lvl 1 or a lvl 79.
Anything prior to level 60 is pretty useless to look at.
I love dots. Doesn't matter if it's a lvl 1 or a lvl 79.
Originally posted by Dub J
I love dots. Doesn't matter if it's a lvl 1 or a lvl 79.
I love dots. Doesn't matter if it's a lvl 1 or a lvl 79.
sehorn31
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Actually the Pitch Weak from Strong I Formation is the same way: http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2217843&pbp_id=2310812
bhall43
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Originally posted by sehorn31
Actually the Pitch Weak from Strong I Formation is the same way: http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2217843&pbp_id=2310812
The laws of speed work in the same manner for OG's to HB's as they do for FB's to HB's.
That being said those were CPU dots that were in a morale funk and thus their vision check was god awful there. Had that been a decent team your ROG would have made the block on one of those LB's freeing up your HB for extra yardage.
Actually the Pitch Weak from Strong I Formation is the same way: http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=2217843&pbp_id=2310812
The laws of speed work in the same manner for OG's to HB's as they do for FB's to HB's.
That being said those were CPU dots that were in a morale funk and thus their vision check was god awful there. Had that been a decent team your ROG would have made the block on one of those LB's freeing up your HB for extra yardage.
sehorn31
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Originally posted by bhall43
The laws of speed work in the same manner for OG's to HB's as they do for FB's to HB's.
That being said those were CPU dots that were in a morale funk and thus their vision check was god awful there. Had that been a decent team your ROG would have made the block on one of those LB's freeing up your HB for extra yardage.
Laws of Speed...By that you mean the 2/3 HB's Speed for Pulling and 1/3 HB's Speed for Lead Blocking? That's the only Speed Law I have heard of back in Season 4 I think, That being said, For a HB with 160 Speed, A FB Lead Blocking would need at least 53.3 Speed to effectively stay in Front and Lead Block on Rushing Plays between the Tackles(Which most have at least 80 Speed and still don't Block effectively between the Tackles and I've Coached ones with good Vision and it's the same thing). On Outside Runs the FB needs at least 106.6 which still doesn't hold water for FB's to effectively stay out front and Block the correct Defender cause I have FB's with 120 Speed and no way the OG is going to have that much Speed. My point is, No matter the # Game, You shouldn't pull the Backside Guard with Speed being mostly around 80ish. Pull the Center and make Speed an issue for Centers or something? Most Center's don't have much Speed and they still can't even Block NT's as it is so guess it doesn't matter. I'm sure they won't change any already made Plays but just thought I'd give my 2 cents,lol.
Usually the only time a Backside Guard is Pulling is on End Around and Reverse Plays or Trap Plays from the Far / Near Formations. 
The laws of speed work in the same manner for OG's to HB's as they do for FB's to HB's.
That being said those were CPU dots that were in a morale funk and thus their vision check was god awful there. Had that been a decent team your ROG would have made the block on one of those LB's freeing up your HB for extra yardage.
Laws of Speed...By that you mean the 2/3 HB's Speed for Pulling and 1/3 HB's Speed for Lead Blocking? That's the only Speed Law I have heard of back in Season 4 I think, That being said, For a HB with 160 Speed, A FB Lead Blocking would need at least 53.3 Speed to effectively stay in Front and Lead Block on Rushing Plays between the Tackles(Which most have at least 80 Speed and still don't Block effectively between the Tackles and I've Coached ones with good Vision and it's the same thing). On Outside Runs the FB needs at least 106.6 which still doesn't hold water for FB's to effectively stay out front and Block the correct Defender cause I have FB's with 120 Speed and no way the OG is going to have that much Speed. My point is, No matter the # Game, You shouldn't pull the Backside Guard with Speed being mostly around 80ish. Pull the Center and make Speed an issue for Centers or something? Most Center's don't have much Speed and they still can't even Block NT's as it is so guess it doesn't matter. I'm sure they won't change any already made Plays but just thought I'd give my 2 cents,lol.
Usually the only time a Backside Guard is Pulling is on End Around and Reverse Plays or Trap Plays from the Far / Near Formations. 
Edited by sehorn31 on Dec 12, 2012 18:24:30
bhall43
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Originally posted by sehorn31
You shouldn't pull the Backside Guard with Speed being mostly around 80ish.
I don't like OG's under 80 speed tbh. But mine will all have 90 speed. Added in are Pulling Lineman and Outside Blocker. 80 speed is enough to make the play effective for the most part though. I know because I tend to use the play a lot and was a main tester for the pulling OG plays. The OG used to never make it outside and stopped in the middle of the oline to block. Now it works quite well. It takes certain molds just like other plays in the playbook to be ultimately successful on a grand scheme though.
You shouldn't pull the Backside Guard with Speed being mostly around 80ish.
I don't like OG's under 80 speed tbh. But mine will all have 90 speed. Added in are Pulling Lineman and Outside Blocker. 80 speed is enough to make the play effective for the most part though. I know because I tend to use the play a lot and was a main tester for the pulling OG plays. The OG used to never make it outside and stopped in the middle of the oline to block. Now it works quite well. It takes certain molds just like other plays in the playbook to be ultimately successful on a grand scheme though.
sehorn31
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That's what I figured B, No Worries. I will just stop calling Plays that are not drawn up well. Not going to Build Player's around a few Plays. 

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