User Pass
Home Sign Up Contact Log In
Forum > Goal Line Blitz > New Kickoff Plan
Page:
 
Fumanchuchu
fonky
offline
Link
 
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/varsity-numbers/2011/varsity-numbers-fourth-and-15

It's actually harder to complete 4rth and 15 in the college game.


edit: Apparently in the NFL it's a little easier: http://keepingscore.blogs.time.com/2012/12/07/the-nfl-kickoff-debate-why-teams-may-take-more-risk-without-them/

But the risk is more significant as and incomplete pass gives possession in the 30 while a failed on-side lads closer to the 50.
Edited by Fumanchuchu on Dec 7, 2012 19:03:58
 
F8n4tune
offline
Link
 
Originally posted by reddogrw
this is all part of a plan to diffuse concussion lawsuits

Goodell isn't going anywhere - he takes all the heat for his employers


He gets paid very well for it too. Removing KO's is just plain stupid , may as well just stop playing. Nothing like a good KR to get a team back in a game.
 
Mob-6
offline
Link
 
Originally posted by Novus
This. The whole point of eliminating kickoffs in the NFL is to reduce injuries. And there are no injuries in dotball. So, I'm guessing kickoffs would remain in place.


Good point. I don't know why Goodell just doesn't eliminate injuries instead.
 
Link
 
Leave the KO's alone
 
BadgerPhil
offline
Link
 
Originally posted by Mob-6
Good point. I don't know why Goodell just doesn't eliminate injuries instead.


Bort and Goodell should have a Injury Summit, surely between the two of them they can come up with a nerf we can all live with.
 
8th Wonder
nevar forget!
offline
Link
 
Make the players wear bras and tinfoil hats, use a balloon instead of a ball and give hugs, and give compliments to the opposing team instead of tackling them.

 
Guppy, Inc
offline
Link
 
if the nfl really wanted to cut down on injuries, they would require that any tv coverage would stop showing the big hits over and over. big hits are popular to see and its also what causes injuries. kinda like how they no longer show people that run onto the field. doesnt happen as often any more. if espn stopped highlighting the big hits, then people wouldnt do it as much just trying to get on tv, and maybe w'd get better overall tackling.

goddell is a fucking hypocrite
 
yello1
Preacher
offline
Link
 
Originally posted by English Pats Fan
Not true at all

Heck, New England converted a 4th and 15 I think in the SB last season, I've also seen some 4th and 15's be converted, there's a better chance of converting that than a onside kick.

besides, you can't exactly work out an equivalent.....


Onside kick is 40% I think.

Or is that converting a two pointer?
 
yello1
Preacher
offline
Link
 
The only time - well one of two the other was a pulled hamstring on the line - I came close to hurting myself playing football was covering a kick return in college intramurals. No pads but full speed running and contact blocking. SOB put an elbow out and into my sternum, felt like it was broken. Wasn't actually but youch hurt for a good while.

But someone was getting hurt because they changed the rules so that instead of actual blocking they had to block basketball style - stepping in front and making the defenders go around without contact by the arms.

So ghey I stopped playing, what was the point?

This kick off nonsense sounds like that kind of change.
 
Link
 
These guys in the NFL are paid millions of dollars, tbqh there are hazards with every job so I am sure these guys know the hazards involved. Some of the rules now takeaway from the game imo.
 
tpaterniti
Lead Mod
offline
Link
 
Since they changed the kickoff rules what % of injuries now happen on kickoffs? I would bet it is very low.
Even when people return kicks there really isn't time to set up a wedge. BTW if you look at early football in the 1900s several rules that we have now (like having a P!) came about to make the game safer. President Roosevelt threatened to ban football entirely unless it was changed because 24 people died in a year playing it. So as distasteful as it seems, fundamentally changing the rules to make the game safer has been a part of football forever.

Having said that, I can't see changing something if it doesn't make sense. This doesn't make sense. Leather helmets don't make sense either. Anecdotally I would guess that less than 15% of concussion inducing hits are helmet to helmet. You just don't see a ton of those spearing type hits. What you do see is shoulder to helmet, shoulder to chest, blindsiding defenseless receivers or opponents on crack back blocks off turnovers or QBs hitting their head on the ground when being sacked. A lot of times with the defenseless receiver rule when a receiver is running one way and a defender hits him running the other way, even if he hits him chest to chest it's the sudden deceleration that causes the concussion not the direct contact of the blow. Your head and brain are going 15 mph in one direction and are decelerated to 0 in about 0.1 second. Your brain is going to hit your skull like a car running into a brick wall. None of these things have anything to do with helmets used as a weapon. Can you imagine that hit Ed Reed put on Deion Branch in week 3 if Branch had a leather helmet? It was not helmet to helmet, Reed went shoulder to helmet. Branch literally might have died with a leather helmet on for this hit while Reed would have been no worse for wear.

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=JwpmUbxUxe8&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DJwpmUbxUxe8
 
Lazer Noble
offline
Link
 
no kickoffs you say?

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111210200956/villains/images/a/af/Vince_McMahon.jpg
 
Sithas~Cult~
FireDown!
offline
Link
 
More deaths in the NFL would boost raitings
 
Achelon
offline
Link
 
Originally posted by BDizzle80
With NFL commissioner Goodell proposing a new plan that could replace kickoffs in the near future, what would Bort do if kickoffs are eliminated from NFL play? It's well known that this sim is NOT an NFL emulation, but inquiring minds want to know of any potential game changes.


GLB is not the NFL
GLB is a cross between College football, CFL, and the NBA
 
Achelon
offline
Link
 
Also I read somewhere that the percentage of getting first downs on 4th and 15 are the same as recovering an onside kick
 
Page:
 


You are not logged in. Please log in if you want to post a reply.