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shaun123987
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Hmm I wonder what's wrong with that build.
 
demonicangel
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Originally posted by shaun123987
Hmm I wonder what's wrong with that build.


ive blown about 50 dollar on custom equipment alone to try to figure that one out.
 
shaun123987
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You're right though. This forum really is just for boasting as no one really unveils why their builds are so good.
 
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Originally posted by shaun123987
You're right though. This forum really is just for boasting as no one really unveils why their builds are so good.


yup
 
kretchfoop
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I would, but my build is far from great. There is too much variety in the leagues to reach any definitive conclusions. What works on one team in one league may not work for another.

The bottom line is...have a higher level than your opponent. This seems to get great stats that assholes can brag about.
 
shaun123987
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I don't wanna mess this build up. My QB started off really bad because I put way too many points in the SA and nothing caught up until around level 16.

So I'm guessing strength, agility, speed, tackling, and vision, are the most important things?
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t-money
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Originally posted by demonicangel
These sub forums are a waste of space. The ones that have the magic ratio dont really divulge there secrets. This is more of a bragging place but I will give you my build. It doesnt work worth a damn, so you might want to try a different route.

Strength: 67.18 Blocking: 20.7
Speed: 49.33 Tackling: 32.93
Agility: 46.24 Throwing: 7
Jumping: 14.77 Catching: 8.47
Stamina: 30.63 Carrying: 9
Vision: 32.2 Kicking: 8
Confidence: 24.31 Punting: 8

in this one all equipment is on strenght. Ive tried with around 50 strenght and 55 agility didnt work, same with speed. I dunno, maybe this will help you.


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Agility is about 6 pts too low. Try moving your custom equip bonus there and then move it back to STR after you lvl up a couple of times. Stick your next 10 pts into AGI and then keep focusing on AGI until you get to natural 60. You have a terrific build, with the exception of AGI. If you had less in SA and more in AGI, then you'd have a much more effective build. SPD could also use a few SP's, but that's less pressing.

My guess is that to the extent that you're going up against equal lvl OT's, they've caught up with your AGI rating. By not placing more emphasis on AGI and getting distracted by SA's you're more or less equal in terms of STR and only have a slight advantage in terms of AGI.

Keep training block.
 
shaun123987
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Thanks for the input money.
 
shaun123987
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When you say natural, you mean without equipment right? How come it's important to get it to a natural 60 rather than a 60 with equipment?
 
t-money
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For the record, I've done my best to lay the trail of bread crumbs in this forum. However, morons like iMan and his super secret discussions with Pro League players make for a frustrating environment. Take my advice or don't -- but I won't be lumped in with jack-offs like derenzy who just come here to brag.

To be clear, if you look at the direction of most OT builds, many are starting to leave STR alone once their equiped rating hits the low 60's. This is for a number of reasons: 1) they don't want to pay the 2 for 1 penalty, 2) they see DE's running around with sub-50 str, 3) they're worried that their agility is too low to fight off most DE's, 4) they split their equip bonuses btwn STR and Block or have their equip bonuses spread all over in an inefficient manner or 5) any combination of the above.

If you cede the STR battle to the OT, you're already 50% of the way to being screwed. The key to beating the block is to have at least a slight edge in the STR battle and then have a dominating edge in the AGI battle and have a good probability of shedding the block.

Oh and iMan, I never claimed that all my sacks came from equal competition. However, some of them did come from fighting through equal lvl OT's. Until you get any sacks (against lower comp or otherwise) perhaps you should STFU.
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t-money
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Originally posted by shaun123987
When you say natural, you mean without equipment right? How come it's important to get it to a natural 60 rather than a 60 with equipment?


Run a spreadsheet in which you have your target ratings at lvl 30 and then figure out which is the cheapest way (in terms of SP's spent) to hit those targets. I guarantee that you'll find out some interesting and useful information.
 
shaun123987
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So strength and agility are most important to a DE, with agility being more important?
 
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speed, agility, strength and tackling.

1)agility to get off the line quick
2)strength to get past the OT
3)speed to chase down the QB
4)tackling to tackle the QB
5)strength while takling to possibly knock the ball loose
 
shaun123987
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With my QB, once I got throwing to 60, I started taking my equipment from everything else and putting into throwing so I didn't have to pay 2 or 3 SP for +1 and I just used the SP I got to get the attribute I took the equipment away back to what it was and use the last 2 points on something as well.
 
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Originally posted by demonicangel
These sub forums are a waste of space. The ones that have the magic ratio dont really divulge there secrets. This is more of a bragging place but I will give you my build. It doesnt work worth a damn, so you might want to try a different route.

Strength: 67.18 Blocking: 20.7
Speed: 49.33 Tackling: 32.93
Agility: 46.24 Throwing: 7
Jumping: 14.77 Catching: 8.47
Stamina: 30.63 Carrying: 9
Vision: 32.2 Kicking: 8
Confidence: 24.31 Punting: 8

in this one all equipment is on strenght. Ive tried with around 50 strenght and 55 agility didnt work, same with speed. I dunno, maybe this will help you.


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that's similar to one of my de's that does just fine for pass rushing. i think the problem is you're in the LDE position. moving to RDE would have a bigger effect than any adjustment of custom equipment in my opinion. LDEs sometimes get double teamed on pass plays, RDEs don't. it also helps to have a good secondary that can keep the ball in the qb's hands a second longer

 
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