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Originally posted by jdbolick
I've already educated you about it ... as long as you do it properly


I'm not sure you're educating anybody in this thread but I'll humour you.

I think the italicized part above is where we differ. You claim there is a definitive way to do things for building .5 major dots, I think there are pretty large differences between how to start a player that needs to be balanced - LB for example, and one that will be less balanced - OL for example.

You spam your build method all over the forum and get irate with people who disagree with you, curtailing intelligent discussion. I think that the very fact that you claim there is a sole, definitive way to build all .5 major dots, regardless of position or use, shows how blinkered you are. I would urge the people reading the forums to be extremely skeptical whenever you post one of your "unquestionable" proofs about how to build, and to consider things in great detail themselves instead.

You gloss over the analysis of entire networks - whole groups of agents who are excellent builders - to bang your lonely drum about this issue. Why not take the time you spend making incorrect posts in the FAQ section to actually analyse this issue for more than a few minutes to come to a proper and detailed conclusion?

No, see I'm asking for your end builds. At least post your end build for the non-boosting dot to compare it to Tpat's.

Just saying a dot will have 1 BT and 35 more BTs doesn't mean it's actually true. I'm a "I'll beleive it when I see it" kind of guy.

Plus what about the loss of VAs? That alone makes up for the loss of 1 SP and 35 BTs IMO.

Originally posted by mandyross
I think the italicized part above is where we differ. You claim there is a definitive way to do things for building .5 major dots, I think there are pretty large differences between how to start a player that needs to be balanced - LB for example, and one that will be less balanced - OL for example.
You would be wrong. The way I tell people to build is the correct way to do any .5 ALG dot. The difference between a balanced LB/HB and an extreme DL/OL is where you stop investing skill points. On balanced builds I stop at 77 or 80, but I could even get behind stopping at 73 for the right build. On extreme builds I go to 83 or 85. But how you start a build doesn't change.

Stopped at 77: http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=3801129
Stopped at 85: http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=3802028

Originally posted by
You gloss over the analysis of entire networks - whole groups of agents who are excellent builders - to bang your lonely drum about this issue. Why not take the time you spend making incorrect posts in the FAQ section to actually analyse this issue for more than a few minutes to come to a proper and detailed conclusion?

I like how you put on a condescending tone and imply that I'm incorrect without providing any evidence whatsoever. If you could find any flaw in my analysis then you would post it everywhere since you have a huge complex about me and wish for me to be wrong about everything. Very, very few people who have ever played GLB have done more to educate other agents and improve their knowledge than I have. I discover things and I share my knowledge, unlike your idol. I'm not always correct about things, but I usually am, and I am correct about this.

Originally posted by Robbnva
No, see I'm asking for your end builds. At least post your end build for the non-boosting dot to compare it to Tpat's.
The end build is unnecessary. An advantage gained during the first season will persist throughout a build to plateau if both players are built the same way the rest of that time. Also, comparing my end build to tpat's would be unfair because his build method is not WL-quality. His highest attributes in the test build are 100.06, 91.06, and 86.07. http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2308391 is at 104.57, 96.1, and 87.79.

Originally posted by
Just saying a dot will have 1 BT and 35 more BTs doesn't mean it's actually true. I'm a "I'll beleive it when I see it" kind of guy.
Good thing that nobody cares what you think. Regardless, I described the steps and you could verify all this yourself. Instead you act like you're in a position to judge what other people say even though people laugh at you and don't consider you an authority on anything.

Originally posted by
Plus what about the loss of VAs? That alone makes up for the loss of 1 SP and 35 BTs IMO.
Remember that the two extra veteran points go into the last of your VAs, so it's not likely to be one that makes a lot of difference. But fair enough, if you value those last two veteran points that much then you can say that you would prefer boosting to 4.

So that it doesn't get lost in all this: While it is technically true that you gain a slight advantage from not boosting to 4 while using the optimal build method, you need to everything correctly or you will end up at a disadvantage. Therefore the easiest thing to do is to boost to level 4 on the last day of the GLB off-season.

The build discussion I think is for another time bolick - I prefer to consider both (i) when to switch to multi, and (ii) when to stop piling SPs into the first attribute. I feel that the two trade off in the most delightful manner when ALGs are taken into consideration.

This was my effort to compare to your C, which stopped at 85: http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2472167

I'm not going to analyse the builds though, to be honest yours looks p good at first sight.

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To paraphrase - Conclusion of this thread:

Bolick: "Definitely better not boosting from 1-4. I'm unquestionably right."

Everyone else: "We've considered this in depth in our network etc. and concluded that it's probably better to boost 1-4 most of the time, but depends on build scenario, player position etc. Not much in it really ... probably safer to boost from 1-4 regardless."

So if I boost, wait til day 48 lol?

Originally posted by
Good thing that nobody cares what you think. Regardless, I described the steps and you could verify all this yourself. Instead you act like you're in a position to judge what other people say even though people laugh at you and don't consider you an authority on anything.

Did I say anything? No I asked you to support your theory with facts. This isn't glb main, this is FAQs so when you say sonething like its fact, you have to support it.

I'm not claiming to know anything, that's why I'm here asking questions. As I stated I'm building new dots RIGHT NOW so I'm vested in doing what's right.

Please don't bring in personal attacks into this forum, I'm here asking for advice so let's keep it clean ok?



Where is the evidence that a dot will ACTUALLY have 1 extra SP and 35 tokens? You haven't even provided data to show that is true. Show me a comparison vpb that supports that at least.

Originally posted by JLStroud15
So if I boost, wait til day 48 lol?
Correct.

Not to be an idiot, but why is day 48 the best? And I deep passer so I'm trying to focus on strength and passing

Fine question to ask. You want to wait until d48 in order to get the maximum amount of training in before boosting. A lot of this game comes down to training and applying skill points efficiently.

And you can only train one attribute a day for now and day 48 is the last day of the season correct? And how important is stamina to these guys?

Originally posted by JLStroud15
And you can only train one attribute a day for now and day 48 is the last day of the season correct? And how important is stamina to these guys?

You can unlock multi training and train more than 1, but it's not recommended.

Stamina is important but not until much later, a couple of seasons later.

Originally posted by JLStroud15
And you can only train one attribute a day for now and day 48 is the last day of the season correct? And how important is stamina to these guys?

What training method/build plan are you following? Might as well make sure you start on the right path. May make your glb days more fun in the long run.

Originally posted by JLStroud15
And you can only train one attribute a day for now and day 48 is the last day of the season correct? And how important is stamina to these guys?
Just train throwing for now. Throwing is by far the most important attribute for passing QBs.