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Like I said, sheer numbers mean nothing if the positions are BORING.

Yes, the grizzled vets will make them - they know they have to because nobody else will. Virtually every Teams Looking for Players thread has a huge void at O-line while all the other positions get filled up. The rare exception is when someone decides to make the entire O-line - and that comes at a huge risk because then you have a single point of failure, if something happens to that agent you are upshit creek without a paddle.

Gotta be honest here, I don't see this changing ever, no matter what they do. O-lineman are a necessary evil in football - just look at the Lions, they haven't spent a 2nd through 4th round pick on O-line (the sweet spot for value) in over a decade - they simply chase the sexy skill position players. They are GLB in a nutshell.

If you can create a defensive player plus a kicker (300 flex value) I don't see that as boring.

Originally posted by Dub J
If you can create a defensive player plus a kicker (300 flex value) I don't see that as boring.

Who is going to create the real problem demand positions though? Kickers aren't the problem, and 1/2 the defensive positions aren't either - because they are stat accumulators and can affect the outcome of a game single-handedly. Meanwhile the O-lineman and the DT's are in critical shortage, because they are basically like watching 2 stones rub together for over a year of your life.

Might not be after this season bro.

And how is allowing an unlimited amount of QBs and HBs going to alleviate the problem?

It won't, my point is no gimmick will. People complain about 2 million HB's because they think if they restrict the ability to make them those people will instead make a C - they won't.

It's a problem with no real solution. You can't put lipstick and a dress on a pig and make it sexy, it's a pig. Some will make them, most won't.

The solution is get rid of all the higher level D-leagues and contract the shit out of the other leagues until CPU teams are few and far between.


problem solved

Part of the problem is the ridiculous size of rosters - you are talking about needing 10 O-lineman (50-50 play) - thats a shit-ton of O-lineman for a position that is hard enough to get people to make as it is.

Shrink the roster, make some changes to the O-line stamina so you don't have to carry 10 - those are the only ways I can see where you can make a dent in O-line demand, make the supply side not have to be as large.

In reality, teams rarely carry more than 7-8 O-lineman, simply because the starters rarely ever come out of the game. This even with the fact that defenses are constantly rotating D-lineman as well. Maybe GLB can adopt that stance in regards to O-lineman to lessen the demand burden.

Originally posted by Dub J
The solution is get rid of all the higher level D-leagues and contract the shit out of the other leagues until CPU teams are few and far between.


problem solved



That won't fix the problem, simply because you aren't gonna find very many O-lineman hanging out in the D's to begin with.

DTs are like top 10 in wl hurries

PRESSURE

Originally posted by Daver
Why is it impossible to make a free HB? They say the demand is low at 2.53 per team yet almost every team needs or wants 3 HBs and you can't find any fill your roster. How about you allow agents to make whatever player they want for free including HBs?

You would probably look a gift horse in the mouth wouldn't you?

Bad idea -- uber bad, lock it up bad.

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Originally posted by greengoose
That won't fix the problem, simply because you aren't gonna find very many O-lineman hanging out in the D's to begin with.

If QBs and HBs can't find a team people would either create a useful dot or leave. If all they wanted to do is create those positions they wouldn't be missed anyway since they add nothing.

Originally posted by Dub J
If QBs and HBs can't find a team people would either create a useful dot or leave. If all they wanted to do is create those positions they wouldn't be missed anyway since they add nothing.

Useful to who? Teams? Again, we can't look at this from a team demand scenario - teams don't make players, player agents do. Teams don't spend over 1 year of real time building and watching their player, player agents do. The players the agents make have to be useful to THEM. All Teams do in this game is just sign what is made - they are in no position to dictate who makes what in the game. If there is a problem with too few players at a given position, GLB has to adjust demand (teams and/or rosters), because it can't actually control the supply side.

Putting up a traffic stop, forcing owners into queues to make what TEAMS want instead of what they want to make - it just won't work. The only people this glut of HB's and QB's bother is teams, because they foolishly think that GLB can force people to make what the teams need - and GLB simply can't - all it can do is suggest. Banning making certain positions is fine, but really doesn't address the problem - it never will. To make an O-lineman, you have to WANT to make an O-lineman, not be told you have to.

If you use your free player to make a QB,WR or HB that is 300 flex position. Allow people who don't want or can't get one of those positions to make other players that total 300

Example

- 3 OL (300)
- LB + K (300)
- FB + C (300)

etc