Warrior General Games

Originally posted by OMGWTF
So I'm curious, the first move on the SS, is that what you're calling "Juke?"

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=7542935


yea

Originally posted by bills_red
Originally posted by OMGWTF

So I'm curious, the first move on the SS, is that what you're calling "Juke?"

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=7542935


yea

Hmm. . . that HB has 0 points in Juke. In fact he has very little in the elusive tree.

Originally posted by OMGWTF
Originally posted by bills_red

Originally posted by OMGWTF


So I'm curious, the first move on the SS, is that what you're calling "Juke?"

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=7542935


yea

Hmm. . . that HB has 0 points in Juke. In fact he has very little in the elusive tree.

I would actually call that a headfake with a quick cut.

Originally posted by t-money

I would actually call that a headfake with a quick cut.

It's got to be quick cut, cause he doesn't have any points in head fake either.

But even then, he's got 2 points there. . . I'm surprised it makes that much of a difference, that wasn't the only time he was shaking defenders during that game.

Originally posted by OMGWTF
Originally posted by t-money


I would actually call that a headfake with a quick cut.

It's got to be quick cut, cause he doesn't have any points in head fake either.

But even then, he's got 2 points there. . . I'm surprised it makes that much of a difference, that wasn't the only time he was shaking defenders during that game.

From the way the SS and RE freeze, I would have thought that a headfake had to be involved. If its a quick cut by itself, the RE and SS must have horrible agility.

Could be the SS. He stalls on this play too:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=7543877

But then shows some great agility in the secondary even though he doesn't react well to the play. Might just be a lack of vision.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?pbp_id=7545322

I have yet to see a play where I was able to say "that was clearly a... spin move, stiff arm, juke, head fake, etc..",

Originally posted by boognish
I have yet to see a play where I was able to say "that was clearly a... spin move, stiff arm, juke, head fake, etc..",

Well since dots don't have heads, arms, hips and legs it does make it tricky to tell.

Originally posted by supbro
Originally posted by boognish

I have yet to see a play where I was able to say "that was clearly a... spin move, stiff arm, juke, head fake, etc..",

Well since dots don't have heads, arms, hips and legs it does make it tricky to tell.

Exactly. None of those plays people posted were clearly a "juke", IMO. They could just as easily been a quick cut, head fake, stiff arm, or just a general change of direction.

Anybody has high agility, not many SA, and still make jukes, head fake, ect?

Originally posted by kjayb51
Anybody has high agility, not many SA, and still make jukes, head fake, ect?

That's basically what I posted earlier in the thread. Since nobody can distinctly tell what a HB is doing it's hard to diagnose if it's an SA or just having high agility.

I have seen a high-agility RB with zero in the SA trees perform what "looks" to be some kind of fake. Which, honestly, just confuses me more.

so how is it known (or is it really known) that what Tea Baggins uses is Head Fake?

Originally posted by Ambrose
so how is it known (or is it really known) that what Tea Baggins uses is Head Fake?

They move more side-to-side when they juke.

Originally posted by Ambrose
so how is it known (or is it really known) that what Tea Baggins uses is Head Fake?

More importantly, why do people think Tea Baggins is some kind of barometer for what a good RB should be like?

Hell, my guy is in a tougher division, has a higher ypc average, more TD's and less fumbles than Tea Baggins does, and I certainly don't think I have all the answers to building the perfect back.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/stats.pl?league_id=15&conference_id=0&stat=rushing&playoffs=0