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yello1
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Is that for sure?

I have heard mixed comments on the bonus catch up training till Day 0, that it ends on 48 versus 0. Have you tried it?

I would still submit that losing as many as 39 days of training is a needless disincentive to your new users. But that would be better.
 
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Originally posted by yello1
Is that for sure?

I have heard mixed comments on the bonus catch up training till Day 0, that it ends on 48 versus 0. Have you tried it?

I would still submit that losing as many as 39 days of training is a needless disincentive to your new users. But that would be better.




you don't LOSE 39 days of training

if you build during the season you miss getting an extra off season of training, or 17 or so training days - that is the only difference
 
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Originally posted by reddogrw


you don't LOSE 39 days of training

if you build during the season you miss getting an extra off season of training, or 17 or so training days - that is the only difference


And however many days of this season you delayed.

If you create him on Day 30 how much training do you start with?

Right?
 
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Originally posted by yello1
Originally posted by reddogrw



you don't LOSE 39 days of training

if you build during the season you miss getting an extra off season of training, or 17 or so training days - that is the only difference


And however many days of this season you delayed.

Right?


nope... you will always get 280 days of season training

you miss out on the off-season, and preseason if you create differently.

The only thing that keeps you from hitting 79 is not boosting a season... although if they are extending the 6 boosts at plateau, you could theoretically miss 1 season worth of boosting and make them up (think this was done for the pee-wee guys).
 
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+1 yello for effort and since no one else will
 
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Originally posted by tigerbloodwinning
+1 yello for effort and since no one else will


What effort? Yello1 makes a million suggestions and tries to start a bunch of arguments and drama. There is no effort to what he does.
 
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Originally posted by Chysil
nope... you will always get 280 days of season training

you miss out on the off-season, and preseason if you create differently.

The only thing that keeps you from hitting 79 is not boosting a season... although if they are extending the 6 boosts at plateau, you could theoretically miss 1 season worth of boosting and make them up (think this was done for the pee-wee guys).


Oh right. duh.

Though then you are plateauing mid season but yes you do get those days eventually.

Well, all that said and done the post-pre-season is STILL a needless penalty to the new player, or mid season urge builder.

I +1 my OP all the same, even if its not quite as bad as I was thinking.
 
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Originally posted by yello1
Originally posted by Chysil

nope... you will always get 280 days of season training

you miss out on the off-season, and preseason if you create differently.

The only thing that keeps you from hitting 79 is not boosting a season... although if they are extending the 6 boosts at plateau, you could theoretically miss 1 season worth of boosting and make them up (think this was done for the pee-wee guys).


Oh right. duh.

Though then you are plateauing mid season but yes you do get those days eventually.

Well, all that said and done the post-pre-season is STILL a needless penalty to the new player, or mid season urge builder.

I +1 my OP all the same, even if its not quite as bad as I was thinking.


the main thing is that you are thrown off for a lot of leagues age wise and will be a odd age, and thus odd level for a lot of leagues. Which in turn makes you less desirable. However, if you build well there will always be a demand for your player.

I've been working on a suggestion for mid-season and new players building that I think will be nice
 
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The other reason to do this is that you keep the ages of all the dots equal. You keep the XP of all the dots equal. You keep the potential of all dots created no matter what day equal.

It means that you don't have to invite new players to the game between days 40 and 48 in order to get them into the game. It means parity of opportunity no matter what day you build. I've read a lot of the responses, but ask yourself this: if you are a new player, do you always want to be several levels behind the rest of the players you are up against AND have a weaker build because of missed training?

The fact that you CAN build a dot on any day doesn't mean that you SHOULD. For this game to grow, it should not punish players for building on the wrong day. I thought we were passed that idea.

The main exploit that I see is that teams can essentially reset their dot at any time in the season and essentially rewrite the progress of that dot or fill a new need that arises come playoffs. This may be a good thing, as it allows teams to fill a position if a player flakes out, but may also be exploited in some way.

It also creates a slippery slope to, why not let me make a season four player? Why not a level 79 player?

The good thing about it is that the VPB already has this functionality built in, the bad news is that Bort has backed off on his create an instant level 40 player when the APD came out. APD was the solution they wanted instead.

I think it is a great idea, but I don't think it will ever be implemented.
 
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fuck making new dots, glb wont even fix stupid xp issues with dots. how hard is it to not make dots lose xp for changing from a cpu team to a real team? fucking retarded.
 
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Originally posted by issacar
It's pretty much everyone who replied so far who are trolls.

You guys are all aware that if you want to make a end game worthwhile dot, it has to be built between day 41 and day 48.


You do realize it used to be just Day 40 or 41? Be thankful we have been given an extra 7 days.
 
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Dots not created day 40 to 48 are for experimentation purposes. Then retire and rebuild in the offseason.
 
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Originally posted by CyberNinja
No, it's yello1 that is the troll, he knows he can make a player anytime, he knows what's going on, he just wants people to troll him.


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Originally posted by hatchman
Yello1 you really need to think these suggestions through before posting them. All you are doing now is making yourself the laughing stock of the suggestions forum. And sadly the fun that I used to have in arguing with you. Is now replaced with feeling sorry for you and all of these stupid suggestions you are making.


 
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why would you want to build a dot at all?!? ...look at the imbalanced leagues all over this game ...what needs to be done first is to balance out the leagues so that at least half of the league can be competitive and contend for the title! ...I can't remember when it was more than a 2 horse race in almost every conference in this game! ...GLB's money grabbing attempts have ruined this game! ...there should be a $100 set fee for each team or a $2 fee for each dot each season, nothing more, nothing less! ...paying hundreds of dollars to field a competitive team each season in beta is laughable!
 
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