Originally posted by doobas
+1 to the OP, and +1 for longer contracts.
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this, well without the doobas thing.
+1 to the OP, and +1 for longer contracts.
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this, well without the doobas thing.
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Originally posted by fogie55
what if you own a team and are signing your own dots? for some of mine lifetime contracts would be fine--especially since as both the team owner and agent I can renegotiate easily at any time
+1 to OP and +1 to having any length, one less hassle
that would be the one situation I could see it being a good idea. but you have to look at how many bad owners in GLB would send those contracts and make a ton of promises and then once a person signs. and then finds out they do not want on the team then they are screwed to either honor their contract or burn bridges with the owner in hopes of getting released. It is just a double edged sword that cuts both ways. and besides even if you own the whole team yourself like I do. I send new contracts each season to my own players to give better salaries with better morale boosts.
what if you own a team and are signing your own dots? for some of mine lifetime contracts would be fine--especially since as both the team owner and agent I can renegotiate easily at any time
+1 to OP and +1 to having any length, one less hassle
that would be the one situation I could see it being a good idea. but you have to look at how many bad owners in GLB would send those contracts and make a ton of promises and then once a person signs. and then finds out they do not want on the team then they are screwed to either honor their contract or burn bridges with the owner in hopes of getting released. It is just a double edged sword that cuts both ways. and besides even if you own the whole team yourself like I do. I send new contracts each season to my own players to give better salaries with better morale boosts.
Originally posted by doobas
+1 to the OP, and +1 for longer contracts.
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+1 to the OP, and +1 for longer contracts.
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+1
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4-5 years is just unnecessary. By the third season, any competent CFO will have the stadium paid for. By that time, the morale bonus that players have based on original salaries will be none existent or very close to it. So new contracts would, or should, be issued before a person enters his 4th season anyways.
Edited by Myd on Apr 3, 2012 14:53:23
Originally posted by Myd
4-5 years is just unnecessary. By the third season, any competent CFO will have the stadium paid for. By that time, the morale bonus that players have based on original salaries will be none existent or very close to it. So new contracts would, or should, be issued before a person enters his 4th season anyways.
I completely agree 4-5 seasons is really unnecessary
4-5 years is just unnecessary. By the third season, any competent CFO will have the stadium paid for. By that time, the morale bonus that players have based on original salaries will be none existent or very close to it. So new contracts would, or should, be issued before a person enters his 4th season anyways.
I completely agree 4-5 seasons is really unnecessary
Originally posted by doobas
+1 to the OP, and +1 for longer contracts.
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I agree
+1 to the OP, and +1 for longer contracts.
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I agree
anyone else have any feedback they want to add before the idea gets buried under a bunch of new suggestions.
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Originally posted by hatchman
anyone else have any feedback they want to add before the idea gets buried under a bunch of new suggestions.
Are the reasons for contract rejection working right? My understanding is that they aren't. Among other things, they're kind of a simplified version of your idea.
I like your idea; but whether it's adopted or not, if the sending of the reasons for contract rejection still isn't fixed, that's something that desperately needs a fix (even more so if your idea isn't implemented).
anyone else have any feedback they want to add before the idea gets buried under a bunch of new suggestions.
Are the reasons for contract rejection working right? My understanding is that they aren't. Among other things, they're kind of a simplified version of your idea.
I like your idea; but whether it's adopted or not, if the sending of the reasons for contract rejection still isn't fixed, that's something that desperately needs a fix (even more so if your idea isn't implemented).
Originally posted by Ken1
Originally posted by hatchman
anyone else have any feedback they want to add before the idea gets buried under a bunch of new suggestions.
Are the reasons for contract rejection working right? My understanding is that they aren't. Among other things, they're kind of a simplified version of your idea.
I like your idea; but whether it's adopted or not, if the sending of the reasons for contract rejection still isn't fixed, that's something that desperately needs a fix (even more so if your idea isn't implemented).
your not getting the idea at all from what I am gathering. basically it goes like this you own a team and you send me a contract offer for lets say 3 seasons at a really high salary. well I know I am not going to sign to your team long term because I do not know you and thus there is the trust issue. so I counter your offer and send a contract offer of 1 season for less salary. I also get to add why I do not accept long term contracts in the memo box.
the way things are now you have a drop down that gives you a few options and to actually let you know what type of contract I will accept I have to PM you. this cuts down on unneeded PMs and also makes it so that the owner can accept my counter offer as well as I can accept his initial or even a counter offer.
Originally posted by hatchman
anyone else have any feedback they want to add before the idea gets buried under a bunch of new suggestions.
Are the reasons for contract rejection working right? My understanding is that they aren't. Among other things, they're kind of a simplified version of your idea.
I like your idea; but whether it's adopted or not, if the sending of the reasons for contract rejection still isn't fixed, that's something that desperately needs a fix (even more so if your idea isn't implemented).
your not getting the idea at all from what I am gathering. basically it goes like this you own a team and you send me a contract offer for lets say 3 seasons at a really high salary. well I know I am not going to sign to your team long term because I do not know you and thus there is the trust issue. so I counter your offer and send a contract offer of 1 season for less salary. I also get to add why I do not accept long term contracts in the memo box.
the way things are now you have a drop down that gives you a few options and to actually let you know what type of contract I will accept I have to PM you. this cuts down on unneeded PMs and also makes it so that the owner can accept my counter offer as well as I can accept his initial or even a counter offer.
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Originally posted by hatchman
your not getting the idea at all from what I am gathering. basically it goes like this you own a team and you send me a contract offer for lets say 3 seasons at a really high salary. well I know I am not going to sign to your team long term because I do not know you and thus there is the trust issue. so I counter your offer and send a contract offer of 1 season for less salary. I also get to add why I do not accept long term contracts in the memo box.
the way things are now you have a drop down that gives you a few options and to actually let you know what type of contract I will accept I have to PM you. this cuts down on unneeded PMs and also makes it so that the owner can accept my counter offer as well as I can accept his initial or even a counter offer.
I'm not saying that your idea isn't an improvement over the system that I'm not sure is even working. It is an improvement, even if the system is working.
However, if it is working, you would reject the offer with "Contract length too long" as the reason.
Your idea would be an improvement on just that, because you could then propose a shorter contract but with a lower salary. That's an improvement. I'm not misunderstanding it. I'm for your idea. I'm just saying what's supposed to exist already.
your not getting the idea at all from what I am gathering. basically it goes like this you own a team and you send me a contract offer for lets say 3 seasons at a really high salary. well I know I am not going to sign to your team long term because I do not know you and thus there is the trust issue. so I counter your offer and send a contract offer of 1 season for less salary. I also get to add why I do not accept long term contracts in the memo box.
the way things are now you have a drop down that gives you a few options and to actually let you know what type of contract I will accept I have to PM you. this cuts down on unneeded PMs and also makes it so that the owner can accept my counter offer as well as I can accept his initial or even a counter offer.
I'm not saying that your idea isn't an improvement over the system that I'm not sure is even working. It is an improvement, even if the system is working.
However, if it is working, you would reject the offer with "Contract length too long" as the reason.
Your idea would be an improvement on just that, because you could then propose a shorter contract but with a lower salary. That's an improvement. I'm not misunderstanding it. I'm for your idea. I'm just saying what's supposed to exist already.
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