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Originally posted by PatrickStump
yeah there's a reason there are casual leagues

casual leagues are a joke....as a causal league owner since its inception i can tell you that i have not had one enjoyable season. you win or you lose...that's about it...whether or not it follows what you wanted is a complete toss up regardless of whether or not you tell it auto adjust. you get little enjoyment out of it becuase its ability to vary is pretty limited....if i want to run with my scat fb or cach with him i have to bench the slow ass blocker fb so that he doesnt mess things up? Why?

-adding more options to casual leagues is not the same thing as making it a non casual league....it just gives you more options to define. Im not sure why every time a suggestion like this comes around (and i have made my own in the past) they get shot down becuase people are too afraid that they might have to be a little bit more creative.

Originally posted by Moretti


-adding more options to casual leagues is not the same thing as making it a non casual league....it just gives you more options to define. Im not sure why every time a suggestion like this comes around (and i have made my own in the past) they get shot down becuase people are too afraid that they might have to be a little bit more creative.



+1

Originally posted by Moretti
casual leagues are a joke....as a causal league owner since its inception i can tell you that i have not had one enjoyable season. you win or you lose...that's about it...whether or not it follows what you wanted is a complete toss up regardless of whether or not you tell it auto adjust. you get little enjoyment out of it becuase its ability to vary is pretty limited....if i want to run with my scat fb or cach with him i have to bench the slow ass blocker fb so that he doesnt mess things up? Why?

-adding more options to casual leagues is not the same thing as making it a non casual league....it just gives you more options to define. Im not sure why every time a suggestion like this comes around (and i have made my own in the past) they get shot down becuase people are too afraid that they might have to be a little bit more creative.



then play in regular leagues

Originally posted by Moretti
casual leagues are a joke....as a causal league owner since its inception i can tell you that i have not had one enjoyable season. you win or you lose...that's about it...whether or not it follows what you wanted is a complete toss up regardless of whether or not you tell it auto adjust. you get little enjoyment out of it becuase its ability to vary is pretty limited....if i want to run with my scat fb or cach with him i have to bench the slow ass blocker fb so that he doesnt mess things up? Why?

-adding more options to casual leagues is not the same thing as making it a non casual league....it just gives you more options to define. Im not sure why every time a suggestion like this comes around (and i have made my own in the past) they get shot down becuase people are too afraid that they might have to be a little bit more creative.



casual doesn't mean what you think it means

Originally posted by Dub J
casual doesn't mean what you think it means

Regardless of what you think I think it means it doesn't change all the faults of casual and its total blandness.

"
Casual: Casual teams are very similar to the Regular teams, except that team owners only have access to the most basic tactics. Casual teams are for an owner who does not have enough time to focus on the tactical aspect of the game."


Still just becuase its labeled casual doesn't mean it cannot advance with more options. Adding a few specializing options is no where remotely close to creating packages and AI setups for a regular team.


The only reason i have a team in a causal league is becuase its a farm team and initially I didnt have enough time to focus completely on both teams. At this point I feel bad for most of the specialized players who dont get as much opportunity for majority of their careers becuase they are lumped into a middle road with all other archetypes of that position.
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If Bort has decided that he never wants to change the causal league format he should change the name to "GLB Classic" or something of the sort so that it removes the negative "casual" term stigma and adds some nostalgia effect.

Originally posted by Moretti
If Bort has decided that he never wants to change the causal league format he should change the name to "GLB Classic" or something of the sort so that it removes the negative "casual" term stigma and adds some nostalgia effect.

Now that I can get behind!

Lol Classic!

I am a casual lover, and I gotta go -1 on the suggestion.

To play casual, you gotta structure the roster a little differently. You simply cannot have a blocking TE and a Receiving TE, or blocking FB and Scat FB. Don't think you can have a rushing QB and a pocket QB. It won't work and you will just get frustrated.

Once you understand the limitations, and build your roster accordingly, it's not that bad. Believe it or not, some of the favorite players on my roster are kind of "crossovers" or combo builds. While those builds may suck in regular leagues, they come in very handy in casual.

As far as the perceived negative stigma is concerned, it really doesn't exist.

Here's an explanation as to why you and others have an inferiority complex when it comes to the casual leagues.

- Avenger trolls regular league forums making outlandish claims and trying to set up rigged scrims
- People from regular leagues retaliate by posting "lolcasual" following Avenger's posts to rattle him
- Avenger runs to the casual forums saying "hey guys, they're making fun of you. It's us against them."
- People that rarely venture into any forum other than casual private and league forums take his word for it
- Those people look foolish when they poke their head into the main forums because they are too naive to realize people aren't really mocking casual, they are trolling Avenger

It's obvious some don't comprehend how useless and ignorant this suggestion is, tbh. You say "give us the option to pick which player is in for certain plays" yet you provide no mechanics to do this. That's because the only one that exists is custom slots + AIs. Of course if you add custom slots for the offense it is only fair to give DCs AI and DPC. Then what is the point in even having casual leagues?

If you are suggesting to just have some sort of drop down menus or boxes that allow you to have certain players in for certain plays, that's even more ridiculous than custom slots with AIs. If this was implemented I would never sign another defensive player with a casual again nor would any other user with any intelligence. You would effectively be killing the casual leagues.

Originally posted by Dub J
As far as the perceived negative stigma is concerned, it really doesn't exist.

Dub,

I don't follow the whole Venge "It's us against them" thing, but there is certainly a negative stigma to casual. When you try recruiting top level dots it is very noticeable, but I don't cry about it. It is what it is, and I don't get worked up about it. From day 25 through day 40 of last season, most of the people that posted in the PLFT forum specifically indicated that they wouldn't play in casual. No biggie, just move on to the next one when I see that.

I have just as much hell recruiting for regular and peewee as I do casual. I haven't noticed any difference, tbh. I've had a number of people say no thanks when I was recruiting them and they turned around and signed with another casual.

Originally posted by sunder B
I am a casual lover, and I gotta go -1 on the suggestion.

To play casual, you gotta structure the roster a little differently. You simply cannot have a blocking TE and a Receiving TE, or blocking FB and Scat FB. Don't think you can have a rushing QB and a pocket QB. It won't work and you will just get frustrated.

Once you understand the limitations, and build your roster accordingly, it's not that bad. Believe it or not, some of the favorite players on my roster are kind of "crossovers" or combo builds. While those builds may suck in regular leagues, they come in very handy in casual.

unfortunately for the masses that's not really feasible as players who are created are built to succeed into regular leagues and not casual leagues. So if you lose some of your players that were originally created for your team the likeability of finding those rare combo builds to replace them is probably nearly impossible.

Originally posted by Dub J







Originally posted by Dub J
As far as the perceived negative stigma is concerned, it really doesn't exist.




Yeah OK


Originally posted by Dub J
It's obvious some don't comprehend how useless and ignorant this suggestion is, tbh. You say "give us the option to pick which player is in for certain plays" yet you provide no mechanics to do this. That's because the only one that exists is custom slots + AIs. Of course if you add custom slots for the offense it is only fair to give DCs AI and DPC. Then what is the point in even having casual leagues?

If you are suggesting to just have some sort of drop down menus or boxes that allow you to have certain players in for certain plays, that's even more ridiculous than custom slots with AIs. If this was implemented I would never sign another defensive player with a casual again nor would any other user with any intelligence. You would effectively be killing the casual leagues.



Whats ignorant is comments like that where there are no considerations given to anything other possibilities regardless of how they are presented. I didnt create the game and I dont know the dynamics of how things can specifically work all I know is that the causal game as its presented now leaves alot to be desired from what it could potentially offer without having to get super complex.