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Forum > Suggestions > Have defenders in under zone maintain zone integrity, but allow players in deep zones to follow players deep down field
Ken1
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+1. Safeties in deep zones are routinely coached "DON'T let ANYONE get behind you!" One of the ideas ITT should be used to allow such coaching in GLB.
Maddencoach
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Originally posted by SteveMax58
I think it should probably be the pairing of zone coverage that has automatic behaviors. The 1st part (Shallow/Medium/Deep) should dictate the defenders behavior and the 2nd part should dictate placement. Feel free to change the name of the 1st part as I think those names are kind of redundant currently, but should be renamed to Strict/Default/Safe (or something like that) where:
STRICT = Adhere to zone regardless of receivers entering & leaving zone
DEFAULT = Adhere to zone until receiver enters and attempts to leave zone. Defender will then (vision+chemistry) check if there is another defender with Man OR Zone responsibility of receiver & will follow VERTICALLY if no other defender does. Will follow 5 yds beyond zone HORIZONTALLY ONLY. If more than 1 receiver is found in the FS zone, FS will (vision+chemistry) check to follow the receiver that is uncovered (if applicable).
SAFE = Adhere to zone until receiver enters and attempts to leave zone. Defender will follow VERTICALLY and NOT check if any other defender has responsibility. Will follow 5 yds beyond zone HORIZONTALLY ONLY. If more than 1 receiver is found in the FS zone, FS will (vision+chemistry) check to follow the receiver that is uncovered (if applicable).
So the coupling of these (FS examples) might look something like this:
Cover Zone STRICT/Deep Weak Half = FS will patrol the Deep Half as normal. When a receiver enters zone, FS will move to cover and follow ONLY within his assigned zone. Receiver leaves, FS checks for others in his zone & refocuses to center of zone if none are found.
Cover Zone DEFAULT/Under Weak Third = FS will go to Under Weak third as normal. If receiver enters & attempts to leave zone, FS will check to see if receiver has coverage. If not...he follows VERTICALLY & no more than 5 yds HORIZONTALLY. If he has coverage...FS does not follow & refocuses on his zone.
Cover Zone SAFE/Flat Weak = FS will go to Flat Zone as normal. When a receiver enters zone, FS will follow the receiver VERTICALLY regardless of whether there is already man coverage on the receiver.
I actually would like something along these lines
I think it should probably be the pairing of zone coverage that has automatic behaviors. The 1st part (Shallow/Medium/Deep) should dictate the defenders behavior and the 2nd part should dictate placement. Feel free to change the name of the 1st part as I think those names are kind of redundant currently, but should be renamed to Strict/Default/Safe (or something like that) where:
STRICT = Adhere to zone regardless of receivers entering & leaving zone
DEFAULT = Adhere to zone until receiver enters and attempts to leave zone. Defender will then (vision+chemistry) check if there is another defender with Man OR Zone responsibility of receiver & will follow VERTICALLY if no other defender does. Will follow 5 yds beyond zone HORIZONTALLY ONLY. If more than 1 receiver is found in the FS zone, FS will (vision+chemistry) check to follow the receiver that is uncovered (if applicable).
SAFE = Adhere to zone until receiver enters and attempts to leave zone. Defender will follow VERTICALLY and NOT check if any other defender has responsibility. Will follow 5 yds beyond zone HORIZONTALLY ONLY. If more than 1 receiver is found in the FS zone, FS will (vision+chemistry) check to follow the receiver that is uncovered (if applicable).
So the coupling of these (FS examples) might look something like this:
Cover Zone STRICT/Deep Weak Half = FS will patrol the Deep Half as normal. When a receiver enters zone, FS will move to cover and follow ONLY within his assigned zone. Receiver leaves, FS checks for others in his zone & refocuses to center of zone if none are found.
Cover Zone DEFAULT/Under Weak Third = FS will go to Under Weak third as normal. If receiver enters & attempts to leave zone, FS will check to see if receiver has coverage. If not...he follows VERTICALLY & no more than 5 yds HORIZONTALLY. If he has coverage...FS does not follow & refocuses on his zone.
Cover Zone SAFE/Flat Weak = FS will go to Flat Zone as normal. When a receiver enters zone, FS will follow the receiver VERTICALLY regardless of whether there is already man coverage on the receiver.
I actually would like something along these lines
Clarka3
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+1 with whatever we go with here. I've shied away from relying on Deep Zones because I always felt they were retarded when the WRs just ran right through them without the guy in the zone even looking at him.
with the changes to nerf M2M a bit, that Deep Zone problem needs to be fixed asap.
with the changes to nerf M2M a bit, that Deep Zone problem needs to be fixed asap.
TJ Spikes
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funny how we're being forced into using zone defenses, but they don't even work the way they should
funny how we're being forced into using zone defenses, but they don't even work the way they should
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