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A player is supposed to stay in their zone. Period

however,they can (and should) cheat to a side / corner of their zone so that they can potentially help other zones as needed.

I'm worried about potentially having a late crossing route be wide open because there wasn't someone in the zone immediately

Originally posted by Chysil
A player is supposed to stay in their zone. Period

however,they can (and should) cheat to a side / corner of their zone so that they can potentially help other zones as needed.

I'm worried about potentially having a late crossing route be wide open because there wasn't someone in the zone immediately

If that's your concern then you would simply not assign a 2nd zone progression.

Realistically you'd want it for flats and situations where the routes end up bunched to 1 side over the other. But just like man progressions which are pointless to cover the HB if the HB isn't running a route...you have the option to tell the player to stop waiting around.

Originally posted by Greywolfmeb
Couldn't be as hard as trying to figure out what you just said.

English is my worst class

Originally posted by Ali Khaman
I'm not sure how doable it is. A crossing route (especially on a slow TE or whatever) could easily trigger a "no one in front of me" situation - but you still don't want to vacate your zone.

I notice in my TEs and sometimes my WR (especially if it's in the slot) if the QB is getting pressure, they will turn back and start heading toward the QB to offer up some outlet help. They don't run straight back toward the line of scrimmage, but they usually head toward the center of the field or outside toward the flat which means they are crossing zones from side angles and not coming directly back in.

I suppose it would probably be possible to do, but then if you require a vision check, there are a huge number of variables in there and it would more likely muddle the situation more than it helps.

I'm not opposed to the idea, but I've seen a lot of ideas with a whole lot fewer variables involved get shot down as overly complex or whatever.

Well the OP has him looking for crossing routes as well.

And yes its possible that it might miss a receiver who turns back in, or a late scramble etc. But thats the cost of the decision. You dont HAVE to do it.

Originally posted by Dr. E
Originally posted by yello1

When a player is in zone coverage in the game now, it seems to me that once all defenders have passed through his zone he inserts thumb and twiddles.

I admit my only football experience which is limited anyway is on the line, and while I watch the game I do not break it down. So maybe I am totally off base here.

But if someone is in a zone coverage in the NFL and there are no receivers in front of him and none coming across the field towards him laterally and none in the backfield, does he REALLY just stand around doing nothing?

I would think not unless he was assigned to spy for a scramble.

I would think, rather, that he might continue downfield with the last receiver to pass through his zone, or move to a deeper zone. Or blitz.

I would certainly think that this could be an option, anyway.

So....when assigned a zone coverage in the custom D play, add a second window to show his assignment should he upon a vision check determine that his zone is going cold without any other prospective receivers enroute to it. This could be another zone, man nearest receiver, blitz, or spy QB or empty which would mean he stays in his zone coverage throughout the play.

Doable?

Desirable?

Dumb?

What say you?

That player is suppose to stay in his area.

Of course GLB has one difference. The back guy that covers the deep zone always stays as deep as the deepest receivers.

Thats the big issue that makes the idea no doubt.

But the guy standing around in the flat just doesn't smell right to me. If the only thing he is looking at is a QB in the pocket he shouldnt have to stand there as long as he does.

Originally posted by Lock1000
+1
FWIW I think you have to look at through an admin the will be woring on this eyes. To make the player know to go aomewhere were he wasn't told in the original play design. IDK how hard that would be but imo it would be hard. But I like the idea.

Well they already have it, a progression of assignments, for man coverage. So it would seem to me that the mechanism is there. The new trick would be making up the logic for checking for guys coming to the zone that aren't there yet. But that doesn't seem insurmountable.

Originally posted by Chysil
A player is supposed to stay in their zone. Period

however,they can (and should) cheat to a side / corner of their zone so that they can potentially help other zones as needed.

I'm worried about potentially having a late crossing route be wide open because there wasn't someone in the zone immediately

Well the OP idea is not an immediate check for zone occupation, but rather an ongoing check for occupation, and also "incoming". If there is someone whose current direction of movement is heading into your zone, or if there is any receiver closer to the QB than you, you stay in your zone. If that ceases to be true, and the defender makes his vision check, then he drops to his secondary assignment. Could a receiver co distant from the QB or further from him suddenly turn laterally or drop back into the zone he just left? Yes. Thats the risk of making the secondary assignment. But I think having that ability to pick that is better than watching your deep middle FS decide to stop and tie his shoes while a wideout runs into the end zone for a bomb.

Originally posted by Lock1000
+1
FWIW I think you have to look at through an admin the will be woring on this eyes. To make the player know to go somewhere where he wasn't told in the original play design. IDK how hard that would be but imo it would be hard. But I like the idea.

Couldn't be that hard. They do it already......