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Originally posted by Social Assassin
Link another CB that did what? Sat in a league with a bunch of CPUs on aggressive with a 90 play average. I don't think many people whore away like that on CBs. Usually its done on QBs or RBs.


Your CBs always perform but there is a moron factor when you try to act like your an INT machine when all you did was whore out a few CPU teams.

lol hell you had 7 in one game and that wasn't even the most interesting stat. SS on that team had 42 FF. Seriously lawl.


There are plenty of mid-60s level CBs in regional pro. Why aren't all of them putting up those stats? Hell, the dot with the next highest numbers of INTs in that league had something like 7. Why weren't there more dots from the non-CPU teams putting up those numbers?

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2147925

Only trick is finding weak teams, more aggressive settings, and someone that will help whore you into a position to succeed.

10k passing yards and 175 TDs. Should I make a post about it?

Only difference from what I did and what you did is the position and how rarely people whore out a CB compared to a QB.

Originally posted by Social Assassin
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2147925

Only trick is finding weak teams, more aggressive settings, and someone that will help whore you into a position to succeed.

10k passing yards and 175 TDs. Should I make a post about it?

Only difference from what I did and what you did is the position and how rarely people whore out a CB compared to a QB.

You linked a QB to try and downgrade my CBs stats? Nice waste of time there.

Link a CB that had similar stats. Assuming 5 CBs per team in a 16 team conference, there were approximately 80 CBs in his conference. Why didn't any of the 79 other CBs come close to 22 INTs? Btw, he also had 6 in the playoffs. So if the only reason he did well is because of his bad competition, why didn't any of the other human owned CBs do as well?

And there were plenty of other regional pro leagues lacking competition. Why didn't any of the approximately 80 CBs in each of those other leagues have anything close to his numbers?

Also, I didn't make a post about his INTs. smittdog noted that his numbers were huge regardless of the competition of the league.

Well the stats are a shock when you see the build to be honest. This might be more a to the DC then anything.

Let me put it another way. Is this a post to show before and after when you have to retire next season? Because DvG has shored up your tackling. Seen worse though for sure. So the effect there will be slight. But the main worry is that speed.

Defenders react quicker and seem move faster then their counterparts. So before, with Ball Hawk, your CB kept up with a WR with 155 speed. Now though ...

But i'll admit your CBs are doing a much better job then mine with 155 speed and the same agility and vision. But this season ...ahh we'll see

Originally posted by Social Assassin
Well the stats are a shock when you see the build to be honest. This might be more a to the DC then anything.

You're assuming it's a bad build because it doesn't look like yours. But my CBs out-perform yours, so maybe your CB has the bad build?

Hint: they have bad builds.

Originally posted by Social Assassin
Let me put it another way. Is this a post to show before and after when you have to retire next season? Because DvG has shored up your tackling. Seen worse though for sure. So the effect there will be slight. But the main worry is that speed.

Defenders react quicker and seem move faster then their counterparts. So before, with Ball Hawk, your CB kept up with a WR with 155 speed. Now though ...

But i'll admit your CBs are doing a much better job then mine with 155 speed and the same agility and vision. But this season ...ahh we'll see

You should watch some pbps and see where BH helps the most. It is when CBs fall for fakes or miss cuts. Having 10 more speed isn't going to be enough to close that space without BH. Where the focus needs to be is not falling for the cut/fake, having the ability to make a play on the ball when the CB is on the WR, and having the ability to tackle offensive dots.

I think you're more likely to see agility, vision, SV, and avoid fake become more important with the loss of BH rather than speed.

on a side note........I love that QB

It's a bad build because it's s bad build.


A 142 speed should never be able to keep up with a WR with 155-160 speed.

Originally posted by Social Assassin
It's a bad build because it's s bad build.


A 142 speed should never be able to keep up with a WR with 155-160 speed.

You don't know GLB.

Originally posted by Longhornfan1024


I think you're more likely to see agility, vision, SV, and avoid fake become more important with the loss of BH rather than speed.


This might be one of the smartest things you've ever thought, and I'm pretty sure you're a lawyer.

Originally posted by bug03
This might be one of the smartest things you've ever thought, and I'm pretty sure you're a lawyer.

I actually thought of a way to bring world peace while I was in college. But I was high at the time, so I forgot.

Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
I'm just hoping that with the new changes they don't end up playing terrible. I've always thought that you over-value speed and under value SAs on your builds, but with the nerfs to CM, CBK, and BH, higher speed, lower PD-score CBs will likely perform better next season. Depending on how the nerf to DvG works out, I'm currently leaning on dropping the INT% piece for a +3 speed/+5% MT piece.
I think you're probably correct about me overvaluing speed on CBs. I was scared my initial WL run as a DC when WRs like Jerricho Brooks were just blowing by people for long touchdowns, so I wanted corners that couldn't be beaten deep. But I'm increasingly convinced that being in a slight trailing position is actually better not only for interceptions (that part is pretty obvious), but also deflections. My knocked loose experiment isn't working to my satisfaction either, although it has made me think that strength is a bigger part of the deflection roll than previously assumed. The next CB I build will probably be a pretty boring guy with speed & agility in the low 90s with everything else in the high 70s / low 80s.

Originally posted by jdbolick

I think you're probably correct about me overvaluing speed on CBs. I was scared my initial WL run as a DC when WRs like Jerricho Brooks were just blowing by people for long touchdowns, so I wanted corners that couldn't be beaten deep. But I'm increasingly convinced that being in a slight trailing position is actually better not only for interceptions (that part is pretty obvious), but also deflections. My knocked loose experiment isn't working to my satisfaction either, although it has made me think that strength is a bigger part of the deflection roll than previously assumed. The next CB I build will probably be a pretty boring guy with speed & agility in the low 90s with everything else in the high 70s / low 80s.

Yeah speed on CBs has similar problems to FS on OTs.

The faster you run backwards, the bigger the cushion, the harder the direction change, the lower your agility is.....

If you're slightly behind you avoid the whole direction change in the first place.

Originally posted by jdbolick

I think you're probably correct about me overvaluing speed on CBs. I was scared my initial WL run as a DC when WRs like Jerricho Brooks were just blowing by people for long touchdowns, so I wanted corners that couldn't be beaten deep. But I'm increasingly convinced that being in a slight trailing position is actually better not only for interceptions (that part is pretty obvious), but also deflections. My knocked loose experiment isn't working to my satisfaction either, although it has made me think that strength is a bigger part of the deflection roll than previously assumed. The next CB I build will probably be a pretty boring guy with speed & agility in the low 90s with everything else in the high 70s / low 80s.

I don't think strength has that much to do with it it all actually. I think vas and tactics make a much larger difference

Originally posted by Longhornfan1024
I actually thought of a way to bring world peace while I was in college. But I was high at the time, so I forgot.

Yay, Austin!