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Originally posted by Mat McBriar
-1

Too rigid of a structure. For PeeWee to work, the structure has to be dynamic so that it can be adjusted on a per season basis to meet estimated supply.

Thats just so blantantly false in so many different ways. Sure, this new league structure would be nice for PW but you have to understand that there are about 75 competive teams in 17 different leagues!!!! And 28 of them are in gold!
I for one, and standing for most the PW users would just like to say that we quite frankly don't give a fuck about league structure and shit, we just want less teams

+1

Originally posted by keltco
544 teams as is. 8 leagues x2 = 512+32(gold) = 544 We cut the teams in half.

Posted by LE:

147 teams NO players
1 Vikings Rise Like Pheonix 0 NaN
2 Boot Camp click 0 NaN
3 Montpellier Wildcats 0 NaN
4 Merc's Mercenaries Pee Wee 0 NaN
5 He Hate Me !!! 0 NaN
6 Addict Nation PW 0 NaN
7 Masters of Mayhem 0 NaN
8 Headbangers Ball 0 NaN
9 One Man Wolfpack 0 NaN
10 Great Lakes Zebra Mussles 0 NaN
11 New York City Piranhas 0 NaN
12 Texas Tornado 0 NaN
13 Koper Pirates 0 NaN
14 Ituron Cavalry 0 NaN
15 Day Crew Terry Crews 0 NaN
16 District 13: Lockdown 0 NaN
17 Sheboygan Bratwurst 0 NaN
18 Dayton Who Dey Bengals 0 NaN
19 Westfield Bombers 0 NaN
20 Kansas City Raiders 0 NaN
21 WHYS based Beasts 0 NaN
22 EVENT HORIZON 0 NaN
23 Foreign Legion 0 NaN
24 Evart Wildcats 0 NaN
25 Dallas blitzers Killaz 0 NaN
26 Fla Jets 0 NaN
27 Huntsville Hard Hitters 0 NaN
28 UT Pimps 0 NaN
29 Brown Bombers 0 NaN
30 Corleone Hitmen 0 NaN
31 Hong Kong Businessmen 0 NaN
32 King Kong's First Dump of the Day 0 NaN
33 Farmersville Sharpshooters 0 NaN
34 dump city 0 NaN
35 Montgomery Biscuits 0 NaN
36 Texas City Tigers 0 NaN
37 Ketterquerque Kings 0 NaN
38 Toronto Ravens 0 NaN
39 Miami Sharks 0 NaN
40 The Illuminati 0 NaN
41 Starcraft Broodwars 0 NaN
42 New York Hitmen 0 NaN
43 MIZ-SEC Tiggers 0 NaN
44 Ground N Pound 0 NaN
45 Mad Mike's Greatest Show On Turf 0 NaN
46 JVille Jaguars 0 NaN
47 Pointe-Claire Lightning 0 NaN
48 Albuquerque Alamos 0 NaN
49 Niger Chickens 0 NaN
50 North Haverbrook Rails 0 NaN
51 Minnesota Thunder 0 NaN
52 Johns Creek Soggy Pups 0 NaN
53 Pandora Blueskins 0 NaN
54 Gulf Shores Fightin' Crabs 0 NaN
55 Detroit Dogs 0 NaN
56 Blitzin' Dots 0 NaN
57 Slaughterville Devil Bats 0 NaN
58 Requiem Revolver 0 NaN
59 Drunk 'til Dawn 0 NaN
60 Mr. Rogers Neighborhood 0 NaN
61 The Philosophers 0 NaN
62 scorpion stingers 0 NaN
63 Virginia Beach Buccaneers 0 NaN
64 Copenhagen Corsairs 0 NaN
65 Sydney Misfits 0 NaN
66 Bronson Mizzoura 0 NaN
67 Poke Dots 0 NaN
68 Los Angeles Bruins 0 NaN
69 Deimon Devil Bats 0 NaN
70 Orange Pee Wees 0 NaN
71 Carmel United 0 NaN
72 Kill Devil Hill Flyers 0 NaN
73 Bay City Buccaneers 0 NaN
74 Fat Pandas 0 NaN
75 Mexico City Banditos 0 NaN
76 New Springfield Who 0 NaN
77 We Need Players 0 NaN
78 Ryder Revolution 0 NaN
79 Dunder Mifflinites 0 NaN
80 Spartanburg Panthers 0 NaN
81 Asylum St. Demon Pups 0 NaN
82 The Well hungGARYians 0 NaN
83 O. J. Simpson's White Broncos 0 NaN
84 California Stallions 0 NaN
85 North-American All-Stars 0 NaN
86 The Devil's Rejects 0 NaN
87 Midlands Legal Eagles 0 NaN
88 Warrior Nation 0 NaN
89 MNW Bulls 0 NaN
90 Jim Thorpe Jackals 0 NaN
91 Mercyful Fate 0 NaN
92 Carolina Fatbacks 0 NaN
93 Razzy Roughnecks 0 NaN
94 Big Top Pee Wee 0 NaN
95 Pee Wee Hermans 0 NaN
96 Indianapolis Speed 0 NaN
97 Hamilton Hawks 0 NaN
98 Wichita Falls Wildcats 0 NaN
99 United Nations' Ball Handlers 0 NaN
100 SAS Chicken Stranglers 0 NaN
101 Austin Bats 0 NaN
102 Monstropolis Mega Men 0 NaN
103 Pease River PeeWee Pirates 0 NaN
104 The Swenglish Association 0 NaN
105 California Silver Bullets 0 NaN
106 Iowa Hawkeyes 0 NaN
107 Area 51: Groom Lake Classified's 0 NaN
108 Beograd Plavi Zmajevi 0 NaN
109 San Antonio Saviours 0 NaN
110 Marlboro Cowboys 0 NaN
111 Dakota Dragons 0 NaN
112 You Want A War? I'll Give You A Whore!!! 0 NaN
113 Florida Gators 0 NaN
114 Scarborough Ravens 0 NaN
115 Lisbon Sporting Club 0 NaN
116 Sacramento Trojans 0 NaN
117 Son's of Anarchy 0 NaN
118 The Replacements 0 NaN
119 Montreal Shamrocks 0 NaN
120 Lingerie Football Ladies 0 NaN
121 Florida State Criminoles 0 NaN
122 Santa Fe Greys 0 NaN
123 Hamilton Iron Hammers 0 NaN
124 swagger juke's 0 NaN
125 United Nations 0 NaN
126 Rocky Mountain RECON 0 NaN
127 Dyslexik Tedd's Monntana Clubb Football 0 NaN
128 J-Town Warriors 0 NaN
129 St. Clair Murder Squad TEST 0 NaN
130 Tampa Bay Rain 0 NaN
131 West Nile Virus Camel Toe Rangers 0 NaN
132 CUIABA PORCO 0 NaN
133 Excelsior Springs Tigers 0 NaN
134 Mr Texas Superheroes 0 NaN
135 Sargent Redfish 0 NaN
136 Midwest Pee Wee Warbirds 0 NaN
137 Manchester City FC 0 NaN
138 Colorado Mustangs 0 NaN
139 The Mighty Dot Ducks 0 NaN
140 Vengeance Society 0 NaN
141 Notre Dame Fighting Irish 0 NaN
142 3rd Battalion 8th Marines 2nd Mar Div 0 NaN
143 Hanau Tornados Epics 0 NaN
144 Las Vegas Huskies 0 NaN
145 Raider Nation 0 NaN
146 Zilina Warriors 0 NaN
147 Golden Hill Mini Bones 0 NaN

Another 17 teams with 10 or less players
148 Toronto Red Star 1
149 New Orleans Pelicans 1
150 Utah Mormons 1
151 Copper City Test Dots 2
152 Fighting Ferrets 3
153 Sons Of Ares 3
154 Slidell Raiders 3
155 Westville Mud Hens 4
156 Chicago Grizzlies 4
157 Fresno Forest Fires 5
158 Indianapolis Snake Oil Salesmen 5
159 Austin Bulls 5
160 Texas Mavericks 7
161 honululu speed 9
162 Middleburg Middies 9
163 Crimson Kings 9
164 Little Green Men 10

Another 14 teams with 25 or less players
165 Portlandia Pee Wees 11
166 Funky Monkey Mafia 12
167 Okeechobee Violaters 14
168 Charlotte Wild Hogs 14
169 Wheaton Warrenville South Tigers 16
170 Team Franchise 16
171 Urban Blitzers 16
172 Heart-Shaped Glasses 17
173 London City Storm 18
174 Flagstaff Cardinals 20
175 Childz Play 21
176 Frozen Fire 22
177 Gulf Breeze Hookers 24
178 Gold Coast Bull Sharks 25

31 teams have 55 players out of 256 teams
1 Faster Horses 55
2 Turf Warriors 55
3 Little Ohio State PeeWees 55
4 Motorcity Maulers 55
5 This is Anfield 55
6 FBU Cowboys 55
7 Burger King Broilers 55
8 The Portland T-Rex 55
9 Coastal Empire Pirates 55
10 lawrence ks jayhawk 55
11 14th street Buc"s 55
12 Invicta All-Stars PW 55
13 Miami Orange Knights 55
14 Mission Beach Monarchs 55
15 Subversive Education 55
16 Skookum Toques 55
17 Pee Wee Defiance 55
18 Corrupted Mayors 55
19 Pittsburgh Steel Rangers 55
20 Belfast Evil Leprechauns 55
21 Michigan Crusaders 55
22 Texas Shorthorns 55
23 NOLA Kangaroos 55
24 Spurbury Evil Shenanigans 55
25 Texas Terrors 55
26 Boston Minutemen 55
27 Orlando Lamb Choppers 55
28 San Francisco 55ers 55
29 The Warriors 55
30 South Texas Border Patrol 55
31 O'Side Pee Wee's 55



I hate to break it to you buddy but your chart is wrong. There are several teams listed as no players that do infact have human players.

Originally posted by Willis1984
I hate to break it to you buddy but your chart is wrong. There are several teams listed as no players that do infact have human players.

This was posted on Nov 2... Yes teams changed but the fact of the matter is they're pretty weak. No competition what so ever. Sorry my linking skills are not working . I dunno if this is google crome...

Again, pro and cons just not cons..

Competition week in and week out is all we ask for...Look at the world league, you don't see tons of blowouts and a lot of games go down to the wire. In Pee Wee Gold there are at least 4 games maybe 5 conference games you don't even need to game plan for....This is supposed to be the World League of Pee Wee, but there are 3-4 games you don't even need to game plan for? All we ask for is competitive leagues...is that too much?

The Copper, Silver and Gold is great, it's fine the way it is, problem is the leagues are saturated with CPU teams and owners with cpu only players.

Thats fine to have a gazillion teams for people to just mess around but there should be Gold league and a Pro league and then the rest. So many teams come and go that are better than copper , better than most silver teams, but just not Gold caliber teams. I believe this is where Keltco is going. You don't want the 2nd best teams mixed in with a whole lot of bad teams. They need their own Gold league but a step under but competitive enough to keep them playing.

With so many cpu teams it also hurts Gold as many teams are getting a free ticket to Gold only to not really wanting to be there so they go cpu or just play with cpu players. This hurts stats, rivalries, and even YES even playoff births.

EX: we played a CPU team basically in Arizona. Thats a free win and a step over the other 15 teams in my conference because I got a freebie. It's almost like winning a sim related lottery.

Would World League be better off with Pro leagues having 8 real teams in each of the 8 leagues and the rest being cpu led? Pretty much would depreciate the value of World League. Same goes for pee wees. Take care of the guys who took care of you bud!

PWG 32 teams - All non playoff teams drop. Thats right, 16 teams drop!
Pee Wee Pro - 4 leagues - (128 teams) All champions and Runner up promoted to Gold (16 team promoted) (Bottom 16 teams demoted to copper)
8 Copper leagues - 256 teams - All champions promoted and runner ups

+1
It doesn't have to be this exact structure necessarily, but as someone whose nonboosting team somehow got promoted to gold and is now getting totally brutalized, there needs to be a more gradual promotion structure.

Last season in silver, we played 4 meaningful games against human teams. That's it. This means that:
1) Last season was outrageously boring
2) The reward for beating those 4 teams is that we were promoted to gold and get to basically waste a season getting smashed by boosters

If the leagues were more condensed, silver would be more fun to be in, plus the teams that win there would actually have a shot in Gold. Win win for everyone.

Originally posted by The Greatest DTD
Competition week in and week out is all we ask for...Look at the world league, you don't see tons of blowouts and a lot of games go down to the wire. In Pee Wee Gold there are at least 4 games maybe 5 conference games you don't even need to game plan for....This is supposed to be the World League of Pee Wee, but there are 3-4 games you don't even need to game plan for? All we ask for is competitive leagues...is that too much?

ive said it once and ill say it again, we are asking for the leagues to be cut down...nothing radical.

lets say you cut the leagues down to

1 gold
4 silver
8 copper

and you find that you are filling up silver, then ok take 2 coppers out and put them into silver

1 gold
6 silver
6 copper

what is so difficult about that, or add 2 silver leagues and have 1, 6, 8. Change the leagues as a new season arrives! i dont see why you dont designate someone to be a PW mod or admin or wtv?

I edited my post, I like this better, all non playoff teams demote

PWG 32 teams - All non playoff teams drop. Thats right, 16 teams drop!
Pee Wee Pro - 4 leagues - (128 teams) All champions and Runner up promoted to Gold (16 team promoted) (Bottom 16 teams demoted to copper)
8 Copper leagues - 256 teams - All champions promoted and runner ups

Originally posted by Rizyx
ive said it once and ill say it again, we are asking for the leagues to be cut down...nothing radical.

lets say you cut the leagues down to

1 gold
4 silver
8 copper

and you find that you are filling up silver, then ok take 2 coppers out and put them into silver

1 gold
6 silver
6 copper

what is so difficult about that, or add 2 silver leagues and have 1, 6, 8. Change the leagues as a new season arrives! i dont see why you dont designate someone to be a PW mod or admin or wtv?

Simplest solution, yet would probably produce the best results.
1,4,6 would probably be sufficient as a base, and then scale from there depending on supply.

Gold
Silver
Copper is in no other league.

Why confuse new owners with this terminology?

We're having a real conversation now! Lets keep it going!

What if Gold/Silver were left as the only real "ranked" leagues. Everyone else would be sorted later in the offseason by a few criteria (e.g. quantity of human players, previous season record, etc.)

Something like:

1 Gold (bottom 4 from each conference demote)
2 Silver (conference championship game teams promote, bottom 4 from each conference demote)
Rest Copper

Silver would have to be filled by Copper's "best". Because Copper would be ordered, there would have to be some "weight" provided into a calculation that determined the best Copper teams. So a team in Copper 1 would be more likely to promote than a team from Copper 2.

This way Copper is easily expanded/retracted as necessary. You're only "locked" into 3 leagues. Less rigid.

Originally posted by Rizyx
ive said it once and ill say it again, we are asking for the leagues to be cut down...nothing radical.

lets say you cut the leagues down to

1 gold
4 silver
8 copper

and you find that you are filling up silver, then ok take 2 coppers out and put them into silver

1 gold
6 silver
6 copper

what is so difficult about that, or add 2 silver leagues and have 1, 6, 8. Change the leagues as a new season arrives! i dont see why you dont designate someone to be a PW mod or admin or wtv?

Playoffs are in 2's 6 is a multiple of 3. doesn't work..1x1 =2 x 2 = 4 Three will not work.

Originally posted by Mat McBriar
What if Gold/Silver were left as the only real "ranked" leagues. Everyone else would be sorted later in the offseason by a few criteria (e.g. quantity of human players, previous season record, etc.)

Something like:

1 Gold (bottom 4 from each conference demote)
2 Silver (conference championship game teams promote)
Rest Copper

Silver would have to be filled by Copper's "best". Because Copper would be ordered, there would have to be some "weight" provided into a calculation that determined the best Copper teams. So a team in Copper 1 would be more likely to promote that a team from Copper 2.

This way Copper is easily expanded/retracted as necessary. You're only "locked" into 3 leagues. Less rigid.

Ok get it going! All we want is change. This is the same thing we're asking for.

World
Pro
Minors then?

except no name change, that's silly