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Originally posted by Mat McBriar
Originally posted by Rizyx
Originally posted by Spread-em offense
you think bortamous cares about peewee?
just would be nice to get some feedback from someone!
although again i really dont see the reason why they wouldnt cut the leagues down? there will still be tons of teams left to buy if they do cut it down whereas now there are tons of teams available to buy but that will never change, its just eating up server space so i dont see any negative from this...
Some feedback was provided to the OP, but it wasn't all that well received. Suppose it would of been better if I just relayed more information here. OP has come around, though.
Originally posted by PM
Just wanted to let you know that I did bring up your suggestion in regards to going up to vote. Catch is hesitant, wanting to see the suggestion be more well thought out with actual ideas as to how said suggestion would work and be implemented.
So, by all means do not be discouraged. Treat this as a step away from being up for vote. Personally I would revise your OP and lean on flexible structure, almost mimicking what we see in the regular leagues. That's the most practical and dynamic as opposed to a rigid structure. I obviously dove in a bit on my first post in your thread.
Originally posted by Mat McBriar
Or just do PeeWee and PeeWee Gold/Elite. The quantity of PeeWee leagues being determined purely by demand.
Bort could just promote the best teams (determined by playoff success, record, past playoff success/record) from PeeWee to replace 8 teams in PeeWee Gold (keeping human teams at all costs, aka a 2nd place CPU team would demote while the 13th place human owned team would stay). Obviously is there were more than 8 CPU owned teams in Gold, Bort could make that adjustment.
tpat also mentioned something wise in the mod forum's "I think this is a good suggestion, what do you think?" thread.
Originally posted by tpaterniti
In peewee there is basically gold and everything else. The fact that you can buy any team any time in any tier makes the distinctions between copper and silver irrelevant. A huge improvement to peewee would be simply sorting all the human owned teams into leagues with each other on the last day of the offseason. But every peewee league ends up about the same. You have a few CPU teams, 2-4 teams in each division that know what they are doing, then everyone else.
this was from LE's suggestion post
Originally posted by Rizyx
Originally posted by Spread-em offense
you think bortamous cares about peewee?
just would be nice to get some feedback from someone!
although again i really dont see the reason why they wouldnt cut the leagues down? there will still be tons of teams left to buy if they do cut it down whereas now there are tons of teams available to buy but that will never change, its just eating up server space so i dont see any negative from this...
Some feedback was provided to the OP, but it wasn't all that well received. Suppose it would of been better if I just relayed more information here. OP has come around, though.
Originally posted by PM
Just wanted to let you know that I did bring up your suggestion in regards to going up to vote. Catch is hesitant, wanting to see the suggestion be more well thought out with actual ideas as to how said suggestion would work and be implemented.
So, by all means do not be discouraged. Treat this as a step away from being up for vote. Personally I would revise your OP and lean on flexible structure, almost mimicking what we see in the regular leagues. That's the most practical and dynamic as opposed to a rigid structure. I obviously dove in a bit on my first post in your thread.
Originally posted by Mat McBriar
Or just do PeeWee and PeeWee Gold/Elite. The quantity of PeeWee leagues being determined purely by demand.
Bort could just promote the best teams (determined by playoff success, record, past playoff success/record) from PeeWee to replace 8 teams in PeeWee Gold (keeping human teams at all costs, aka a 2nd place CPU team would demote while the 13th place human owned team would stay). Obviously is there were more than 8 CPU owned teams in Gold, Bort could make that adjustment.
tpat also mentioned something wise in the mod forum's "I think this is a good suggestion, what do you think?" thread.
Originally posted by tpaterniti
In peewee there is basically gold and everything else. The fact that you can buy any team any time in any tier makes the distinctions between copper and silver irrelevant. A huge improvement to peewee would be simply sorting all the human owned teams into leagues with each other on the last day of the offseason. But every peewee league ends up about the same. You have a few CPU teams, 2-4 teams in each division that know what they are doing, then everyone else.
this was from LE's suggestion post
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1 PW World League = (Gold)..... 13 thru 16 demoted = 8 teams (Pro)
2 PW Pro = (Gold,Silver)..... 4 Conference Championship games teams = 8 Teams - (World)
4 PW Semi-Pro = (Silver) .....2 Championship game teams = 8 teams (Pro)
8 PW Minors - (Silver/Copper)....8 Champions = 8 teams (Semi Pro)
This follows the league structure and also promotes Boosting and Competitiveness.
Edit: Somewhere between Pro and Semi-Pro there would be room for cpu teams to be demoted. -2-4?
2 PW Pro = (Gold,Silver)..... 4 Conference Championship games teams = 8 Teams - (World)
4 PW Semi-Pro = (Silver) .....2 Championship game teams = 8 teams (Pro)
8 PW Minors - (Silver/Copper)....8 Champions = 8 teams (Semi Pro)
This follows the league structure and also promotes Boosting and Competitiveness.
Edit: Somewhere between Pro and Semi-Pro there would be room for cpu teams to be demoted. -2-4?
Edited by keltco on Nov 11, 2011 00:24:54
Edited by keltco on Nov 11, 2011 00:07:27
Edited by keltco on Nov 10, 2011 23:40:08
Edited by keltco on Nov 10, 2011 23:35:59
Edited by keltco on Nov 10, 2011 23:13:07
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Originally posted by keltco
1 PW World League = (Gold)..... 13 thru 16 demoted = 8 teams (Pro)
2 PW Pro = (Gold,Silver)..... 4 Conference Championship games teams = 8 Teams - (World)
4 PW Semi-Pro = (Silver) .....2 Championship game teams = 8 teams (Pro)
8 PW Minors - (Silver/Copper)....8 Champions = 8 teams (Semi Pro)
This follows the league structure and also promotes Boosting and Competitiveness.
Edit: Somewhere between Pro and Semi-Pro there would be room for cpu teams to be demoted. -2-4?
I honestly love this idea....+1
1 PW World League = (Gold)..... 13 thru 16 demoted = 8 teams (Pro)
2 PW Pro = (Gold,Silver)..... 4 Conference Championship games teams = 8 Teams - (World)
4 PW Semi-Pro = (Silver) .....2 Championship game teams = 8 teams (Pro)
8 PW Minors - (Silver/Copper)....8 Champions = 8 teams (Semi Pro)
This follows the league structure and also promotes Boosting and Competitiveness.
Edit: Somewhere between Pro and Semi-Pro there would be room for cpu teams to be demoted. -2-4?
I honestly love this idea....+1
zmj44
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Originally posted by keltco
1 PW World League = (Gold)..... 13 thru 16 demoted = 8 teams (Pro)
2 PW Pro = (Gold,Silver)..... 4 Conference Championship games teams = 8 Teams - (World)
4 PW Semi-Pro = (Silver) .....2 Championship game teams = 8 teams (Pro)
8 PW Minors - (Silver/Copper)....8 Champions = 8 teams (Semi Pro)
This follows the league structure and also promotes Boosting and Competitiveness.
Edit: Somewhere between Pro and Semi-Pro there would be room for cpu teams to be demoted. -2-4?
No, way way way too many teams...we can't have more than 7 leagues imo...
1 PW World League = (Gold)..... 13 thru 16 demoted = 8 teams (Pro)
2 PW Pro = (Gold,Silver)..... 4 Conference Championship games teams = 8 Teams - (World)
4 PW Semi-Pro = (Silver) .....2 Championship game teams = 8 teams (Pro)
8 PW Minors - (Silver/Copper)....8 Champions = 8 teams (Semi Pro)
This follows the league structure and also promotes Boosting and Competitiveness.
Edit: Somewhere between Pro and Semi-Pro there would be room for cpu teams to be demoted. -2-4?
No, way way way too many teams...we can't have more than 7 leagues imo...
Kelts
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1 PW World League = (Gold)..... 13 thru 16 demoted = 8 teams (Pro) 32 teams
2 PW Pro = (Gold,Silver)..... 4 Conference Championship games teams = 8 Teams - (World) 64 teams
2 PW Semi-Pro = (Silver) .....4 Conference game teams = 8 teams (Pro) 64 teams
2 PW Minors - (Silver/Copper).... 4 Conference game teams = 8 teams (Semi Pro) 64 teams = 224 teams
Allowing the top 4 teams of each league to move around would keep PW from the boring , play same team every season scenario if your not league champion.
This follows the league structure and also promotes Boosting and Competitiveness.
Dropped 8 leagues. These can be added back in at a later time if needed. (doubt it)
This drops 10 leagues total. Support whould have to group all the human owned teams together for this to work as well.
I also say teams should be randomly re-ordered in each league each season.
2 PW Pro = (Gold,Silver)..... 4 Conference Championship games teams = 8 Teams - (World) 64 teams
2 PW Semi-Pro = (Silver) .....4 Conference game teams = 8 teams (Pro) 64 teams
2 PW Minors - (Silver/Copper).... 4 Conference game teams = 8 teams (Semi Pro) 64 teams = 224 teams
Allowing the top 4 teams of each league to move around would keep PW from the boring , play same team every season scenario if your not league champion.
This follows the league structure and also promotes Boosting and Competitiveness.
Dropped 8 leagues. These can be added back in at a later time if needed. (doubt it)
This drops 10 leagues total. Support whould have to group all the human owned teams together for this to work as well.
I also say teams should be randomly re-ordered in each league each season.
Edited by keltco on Nov 11, 2011 16:16:49
Edited by keltco on Nov 11, 2011 16:16:19
Edited by keltco on Nov 11, 2011 16:14:55
Edited by keltco on Nov 11, 2011 12:47:37
Edited by keltco on Nov 11, 2011 12:47:20
Stixx
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Originally posted by zmj44
No, way way way too many teams...we can't have more than 7 leagues imo...
You still want the young guys to be able to learn stuff before playing vets....
No, way way way too many teams...we can't have more than 7 leagues imo...
You still want the young guys to be able to learn stuff before playing vets....
zmj44
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Originally posted by The Greatest DTD
You still want the young guys to be able to learn stuff before playing vets....
But there are only enough PW teams right now to fill like 5 leagues
Originally posted by keltco
1 PW World League = (Gold)..... 13 thru 16 demoted = 8 teams (Pro) 32 teams
2 PW Pro = (Gold,Silver)..... 4 Conference Championship games teams = 8 Teams - (World) 64 teams
2 PW Semi-Pro = (Silver) .....4 Conference game teams = 8 teams (Pro) 64 teams
2 PW Minors - (Silver/Copper).... 4 Conference game teams = 8 teams (Semi Pro) 64 teams = 224 teams
Allowing the top 4 teams of each league to move around would keep PW from the boring , play same team every season scenario if your not league champion.
This follows the league structure and also promotes Boosting and Competitiveness.
Dropped 8 leagues. These can be added back in at a later time if needed. (doubt it)
This drops 10 leagues total. Support whould have to group all the human owned teams together for this to work as well.
I also say teams should be randomly re-ordered in each league each season.
This sounds much better...
You still want the young guys to be able to learn stuff before playing vets....
But there are only enough PW teams right now to fill like 5 leagues
Originally posted by keltco
1 PW World League = (Gold)..... 13 thru 16 demoted = 8 teams (Pro) 32 teams
2 PW Pro = (Gold,Silver)..... 4 Conference Championship games teams = 8 Teams - (World) 64 teams
2 PW Semi-Pro = (Silver) .....4 Conference game teams = 8 teams (Pro) 64 teams
2 PW Minors - (Silver/Copper).... 4 Conference game teams = 8 teams (Semi Pro) 64 teams = 224 teams
Allowing the top 4 teams of each league to move around would keep PW from the boring , play same team every season scenario if your not league champion.
This follows the league structure and also promotes Boosting and Competitiveness.
Dropped 8 leagues. These can be added back in at a later time if needed. (doubt it)
This drops 10 leagues total. Support whould have to group all the human owned teams together for this to work as well.
I also say teams should be randomly re-ordered in each league each season.
This sounds much better...
Kelts
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Let's get a vote on this. Then we can decide to write it up and suggest it.
1 PW World League = (Gold)..... 13 thru 16 demoted = 8 teams (Pro) 32 teams
2 PW Pro = (Gold,Silver)..... 4 Conference Championship games teams = 8 Teams - (World) 64 teams
2 PW Semi-Pro = (Silver) .....4 Conference game teams = 8 teams (Pro) 64 teams
2 PW Minors - (Silver/Copper).... 4 Conference game teams = 8 teams (Semi Pro) 64 teams = 224 teams
Allowing the top 4 teams of each league to move around would keep PW from the boring , play same team every season scenario if your not league champion. I for one would like to see Burger King Broilers get a shot to move up. Tired of seeing them guys stuck...
This follows the league structure and also promotes Boosting and Competitiveness.
Minors can be either 2 leagues for now or 4 leagues. 4 leagues for expansion to make support happy.Can be adjusted at any time.
Same terminology and league structure. Therefore we're not making PW only changes.
1 PW World League = (Gold)..... 13 thru 16 demoted = 8 teams (Pro) 32 teams
2 PW Pro = (Gold,Silver)..... 4 Conference Championship games teams = 8 Teams - (World) 64 teams
2 PW Semi-Pro = (Silver) .....4 Conference game teams = 8 teams (Pro) 64 teams
2 PW Minors - (Silver/Copper).... 4 Conference game teams = 8 teams (Semi Pro) 64 teams = 224 teams
Allowing the top 4 teams of each league to move around would keep PW from the boring , play same team every season scenario if your not league champion. I for one would like to see Burger King Broilers get a shot to move up. Tired of seeing them guys stuck...
This follows the league structure and also promotes Boosting and Competitiveness.
Minors can be either 2 leagues for now or 4 leagues. 4 leagues for expansion to make support happy.Can be adjusted at any time.
Same terminology and league structure. Therefore we're not making PW only changes.
Edited by keltco on Nov 11, 2011 17:21:12
Kelts
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We the agents of Pee Wee shale put forth suggested changes in the current PW league format.
These changes will allow for needed competitiveness, restructure, enthusiasm, and boosted revenue!
1. Name Change to coincide with current league formats.
2. Restructure of league to better competition.
3. Movement within the PW league to promote enthusiasm, change of pace, keep teams interested.
4. Upper tier teams competing in non world league. We can finally get all the good silver teams together!
5. Boosted revenue because teams want and need to boost to compete or they get demoted.
1 PW World League = (Gold)..... 13 thru 16 demoted = 8 teams (Pro) 32 teams
2 PW Pro = (Gold,Silver)..... 4 Conference Championship games teams = 8 Teams - (World) 64 teams
2 PW Semi-Pro = (Silver) .....4 Conference game teams = 8 teams (Pro) 64 teams
2 PW Minors - (Silver/Copper).... 4 Conference game teams = 8 teams (Semi Pro) 64 teams = 224 teams
Teams can be added and removed as needed, to any league, by changing the format of how many teams are moved.
These changes will allow for needed competitiveness, restructure, enthusiasm, and boosted revenue!
1. Name Change to coincide with current league formats.
2. Restructure of league to better competition.
3. Movement within the PW league to promote enthusiasm, change of pace, keep teams interested.
4. Upper tier teams competing in non world league. We can finally get all the good silver teams together!
5. Boosted revenue because teams want and need to boost to compete or they get demoted.
1 PW World League = (Gold)..... 13 thru 16 demoted = 8 teams (Pro) 32 teams
2 PW Pro = (Gold,Silver)..... 4 Conference Championship games teams = 8 Teams - (World) 64 teams
2 PW Semi-Pro = (Silver) .....4 Conference game teams = 8 teams (Pro) 64 teams
2 PW Minors - (Silver/Copper).... 4 Conference game teams = 8 teams (Semi Pro) 64 teams = 224 teams
Teams can be added and removed as needed, to any league, by changing the format of how many teams are moved.
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