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Originally posted by beenlurken
Originally posted by yello1

Well I haven't looked at every game but the 30 point wins I have been looking at have mostly been decided in the closing portion of the game and by no means was obvious coming down the pike. Maybe your uber GLB knowledge makes you know whats going to happen but hey I guess it sux to be you.

And why is it that your 0 care is still uber leet while mine should be regulated to reg pro exactly? Arrogance thy name is beenlurken!



If I am being brutally honest, before the season started I would have told you Indy, SWAT and Axis were the only teams in Alpha that I thought could/would beat us when we were trying... since then Brantford has made changes and I would now include them in that mix. Teams like Drank and Stuttgart were intriguing but they are just too young (maybe old enough come playoff time, probably not). GCMM are not what they once were but still a team that can knock you off if you look past them but not what I would consider a huge threat. And then there is the intrigue of what AGT was going to do after filling 70% of the roster... but lets not kid ourselves, I dont see the challenge in a team with that many CPU. Would you disagree with that preseason analysis of our situation in Alpha?


Because our 0 cares is still much better than your best effort. Call that arrogance but it is what is...

Seriously, do you start each season thinking you will have a chance? While I admire your persistence/determination, I think you are insane to want to stay at this level continually getting your ass handed to you. Clearly, you are not learning anything. You might think you are improving but you would be wrong, it has more to do with OPL crumbling around you. Sadly, I get the impression that is what you want... everyone else to drop down to your level instead of you rising to theirs.

W 27-13
W 45-13
W 209-10
W 63-0
W 94-28

That is every matchup between Banzai and OTM from S19-S23. The only game that was remotely close was the first matchup and that was only because the overwhelming majority of our dots were a season or two away from plateau. Im sorry if it offends you but we just dont enjoy playing your team... personally I see it as a complete waste of time. Would I love to see OTM rise up and provide a challenge... HELL YES!! Unfortunately it is stuck with a shity owner that would rather whine about the forums that the game needs to be nerfed down to his level instead of putting in some effort to learn the game or bring in people to help that do (sadly you have turned off/away many that have/would have).

I had a nice discourse response to this, and then my son came home and we talked for an hour and I lost it on the frakking login. Sooooo reallly shot version now.

No idea if your analysis is right. I only look at the team I am playing next game, if that. Other than the ratings thread if someone posts one.

You haven't seen my best, or anything near it. No time for it.

I haven't expected to win since S16 when it was made clear that the game had secrets to building to which I was not privy. S17 I tried to fix it but had bad advice that made matters worse. Since then its been coasting and merging with another guys not great builds (no offense Donner). Have not had the time to build a full roster (and no time to recruit) till last season. So my expectation is to maybe field a highly competitive team come S31, no sooner. Till then its just playing to stay in the league and maybe get some playoff time.

Who cares what our match ups are? Its not about you Warren Beatty. I am here to play an NFL sim, to get and stay in the Pros. I am not a power gamer stacking the perfect exploits. Thats your gig, go for it. Its not mine. So long as the games are close and the game is responsive to my commands (ie I tell it to do this and this is actually what it does) I am having fun. Winning is plus, playoffs is gravy. I have no clue why people would take a team up and then trash it because they cant win gold every season. Thats juvenile. IMO. Definitely not what I want.

As for nerfing it, lol. Wanting the game not to be some pathetic charicature of football is not wanting the game nerfed. Power Gaming exploting is for obssessive compulsive 13 year olds. I want a sim (which is for 15 year olds at least). You all may rant against that concept but change after change Bort is telling us he is more in agreement with me than you - the recent AEQ changes clearly being to that purpose for one example. Since most players prefer high performance he probably wont take it all the way to the NFL style I want. But hes not going to let it be some gamed up nonsense the way it has been either. Thats not nerfing, thats just building a better game.

But hey, you go on believing how 1337 you are and how pathetic all the rest of us are. Its clearly an important thing to your mental well being. Enjoy it.

hmm okay that wasnt so short after all.

Translation or more pathetic yello1 excuses:

Originally posted by yello1
I have no time for this game... that is my excuse for why I suck

I would rather look like an insane person for playing a game for 8-9 seasons now that I continually whine about not being competitive at and blame it on having no time than accept that this simple game is just to complicated for my low IQ. I have had help but I choose to ignore the good advice that was given to me because it does not fit my vision of the game. I have such a hard time with losing and refuse to take responsibility as owner for my teams shitty performance season in and out that I cant help but publicly trash/blame the few that dare help me. Donner, thanks a lot for nothing... at least I am not as terrible as you... go die in a fire!! Anyway, I dont have the time and/or the builds to be competitive until my young dots can cycle through around S31 (if you want something done right you have to do it yourself)... it certainly not a lack of knowledge/understanding as I much more intelligent than everyone here and those who have tried to help me... in the mean time I will still whine and complain about the forums that my team (the one I dont have the tools, time and dots, to be competitive with, despite supposedly knowing how to do so) is unable to be competitive despite my supposed 0 cares. I know (remember I am smart) that doesnt make any sense.. but what do you expect from a moron.

Damn, bl merked me by proving that my team really is a waste of Nat Pro's time... only way out of this is 0 cares. I have to lay the excuses on thick now and blame my poor performance on them exploiting the game. I am still deluded into thinking the only reason I suck at this game is because I dont have the dots (also the time but if I had the right dots it would be more worth my time to try). I will stand firm and continue to play the game how I think it should be played instead of learning the differences between how I understand football IRL from what is actually feasible/realistic as far as a video RNG game is. I continue to make myself the fool and say that I expect close/exciting games despite not having the dots and putting in minimal effort. If that isnt bad enough... I will top it by really showing how clueless I am about this game by failing to understand that teams dont trash because they cant win gold they trash because those are farm/replacement dots for another team or they burn out and merge with another team(s).

I stand firm with my delusions that what I am for is not a nerfing of the game, yet continue to fail to see that what I fight for is eliminating anything that I am too stupid to figure out on my own from being used against me to my disadvantage. What is so wrong with wanting us all to have the same dots and game plans and letting luck/chance play out? That is exciting!! Also, just incase I havent completely proved what a moron I am, I will delve into the AEQ nerf and completely show that I do not understand that they gave us more % to stack with CE and not to mention builds in the new system will have a much higher sp value, higher base attributes, so AEQ needed to be toned down in attempt to keep things balanced. I just dont understand the concept that they gave us some in one area so they felt the need to take away from another to keep it relatively balanced.

If that wasnt enough... one last evidence of my ignorance... I fail to understand that bl points out/proves that only I am pathetic... it just feels like less of a hit to my self-worth if I included everyone else.



I couldnt have said it better myself, yello!!


ETA: lolautocorrect

thats straight up bullshit.

as owner and gm of a team your are managing some other peoples dots.

some other peoples MONEY.

well, judge for yourselves these other clowns and thier trophies

thats pretty much all i do.

I GM.

i dont build dots.

I dont GAS about nerfs or bort or YOU. I GM.

and i give it a good shot.

Owners ask me to GM and i try ot make thier expense of thier team pay off in a win. I try to make agents dots pay off.

If anyone signs up to these whiny assed owners teams, they are deluded, lied too and wasting time.

PM me, ill find you a winning team. Dont waste time with shitheads that are wasting your dots time by typing out cries for thier psychologists prescriptions.

Originally posted by beenlurken


I couldnt have said it better myself, yello!!


ETA: lolautocorrect

How Rude

Originally posted by The Big Cack Envy
thats straight up bullshit.

as owner and gm of a team your are managing some other peoples dots.

some other peoples MONEY.

well, judge for yourselves these other clowns and thier trophies

thats pretty much all i do.

I GM.

i dont build dots.

I dont GAS about nerfs or bort or YOU. I GM.

and i give it a good shot.

Owners ask me to GM and i try ot make thier expense of thier team pay off in a win. I try to make agents dots pay off.

If anyone signs up to these whiny assed owners teams, they are deluded, lied too and wasting time.

PM me, ill find you a winning team. Dont waste time with shitheads that are wasting your dots time by typing out cries for thier psychologists prescriptions.

I didn't say I didn't try. And I am very mindful of player desires. Most of my posts about the game "nerfs" are ALL about making the player base happy in case you were too clueless to get that.

I just do not have the time to 100% scout and game plan every single game, nor do an archival research to see every comment Bort ever made about the game tactics etc etc. in reams of Q&As filled with tons of extraneous and out of date crap. You'd have to be an unemployed kid with no friends to put THAT much time into it, IMO.

But I do try. I think my game plans are decent on Defense. I am not thrilled with the offense but I gave that to Donner when we merged teams and thats that. Since his player and mine are 98% of the team and all but one or two agents are friends of ours as well, I do not have a problem with that. I did sign one guy who I thought would get good situational play but Donner changed up the scheme and he didn't. So I moved him to my Reg Pro club to be a number one back, just to keep him happy.

So do not tell me I am not taking care of my players, thats an unwarranted presumption.

Originally posted by yello1
I didn't say I didn't try. And I am very mindful of player desires. Most of my posts about the game "nerfs" are ALL about making the player base happy in case you were too clueless to get that.

I just do not have the time to 100% scout and game plan every single game, nor do an archival research to see every comment Bort ever made about the game tactics etc etc. in reams of Q&As filled with tons of extraneous and out of date crap. You'd have to be an unemployed kid with no friends to put THAT much time into it, IMO.

But I do try. I think my game plans are decent on Defense. I am not thrilled with the offense but I gave that to Donner when we merged teams and thats that. Since his player and mine are 98% of the team and all but one or two agents are friends of ours as well, I do not have a problem with that. I did sign one guy who I thought would get good situational play but Donner changed up the scheme and he didn't. So I moved him to my Reg Pro club to be a number one back, just to keep him happy.

So do not tell me I am not taking care of my players, thats an unwarranted presumption.



maybe you need help, you want help?

Originally posted by The Big Cack Envy
maybe you need help, you want help?

Help is always good. Donner is the OC, like I said that was part of the merge, so I am limited what I can do there. But I'd love the advice in general just to learn nuances even if he didn't take it. And scouting, DC ST or just a look over and thoughts are more than welcomed.

Originally posted by yello1
Help is always good. Donner is the OC, like I said that was part of the merge, so I am limited what I can do there. But I'd love the advice in general just to learn nuances even if he didn't take it. And scouting, DC ST or just a look over and thoughts are more than welcomed.

thats fair enough

I missed this one... should have expected at yello multi-post...

Originally posted by yello1
Seems to me that by that measure I belong in World League. I couldn't win there either. Your team too.

Clue in, competitive does not mean any given team is going to win the championship that season. Thats not a realistic expectation in real NFL play nor in GLB. Give that a rest. GLB can not survive if 99% of the player base is tossed aside as also rans so you can have a few fantasy leagues. The few players that would fit into those leagues would not be enough to keep Bort in Beer money let alone let him run a company. And it would also make no sense. Part of the game, any game, is the struggle to compete. The NFL would suck nuts if it had 8 teams in it even though thats all that have a decent sniff at a super bowl shot any given season.

So while I agree that blow out games suck (though you preferred them at the start of the thread, go figure) thats not the same as everyone being in some communist co-competitive level league.

As for us not being able to win Elite, nonsense, same to not being in National Pro. We are what? 70 EL points under your club? 1175 whatever yours is. Thats not bad. Yeah our coaching is not great, neither of us gets the time to scout or gameplan much at all and I havent done a full one since not sure when. Not even sure if I managed one for the playoffs last season. Wife and kids and work don't allow that much time. But that said, OTM has still been able to stay in OPL for 9 consectutive seasons this season included. We have been into the playoffs almost half of those seasons and got past the first game in two of them, even getting into a conference game one of those. We positively belong in the National pros.

You just don't get it.

I wouldn't disagree that we are not WL quality right now. In fact, if you had any reading comprehension skills at all you would see that what I push for would make getting to the WL much much more difficult. I never said competitive meant winning championships (again reading comprehension is not your strength) but I would argue that it means having a chance to win (most teams in Nat Pro have no shot at winning.. no shot at pulling off an upset.. these teams have no business here).

It's hilarious how you understand wanting "the struggle to compete" but just don't get that's what the top 3-5 teams in each Nat Pro conference wants too. Continue making all the excuses you want but it doesn't change the fact that what is killing Nat Pro is that it is too big. It is boring for the handful of teams that are competitive (capable of winning) and a waste of time/frustrating for those too young to compete or not good enough (whatever your excuse may be). That is a recipe for failure.

I would ask you to go reread the above and point where I said I like blowouts but I fear what I said will go right over your head a second time, as usual.

You need to stop focusing on lolEL and the like, they can give some idea about a team but are definitely not reliable. LOL at you for thinking it is an accomplishment for staying in OPL for 9 season. It is so easy to get into Nat Pro that Bort promotes teams that don't want to be promoted just because they need teams to promote. The only way you demote out of Nat Pro is if you gut.

It is hilarious how delusional you are. You missed the playoffs in seasons 18, 19, 20 and 21. The only reason you made the playoffs the last two seasons is because OPL keeps getting worse (losing good teams faster than we gain them). Not to mention you lost both playoff games by 100... keep believing you belong in OPL

Originally posted by beenlurken
You just don't get it.

I wouldn't disagree that we are not WL quality right now. In fact, if you had any reading comprehension skills at all you would see that what I push for would make getting to the WL much much more difficult. I never said competitive meant winning championships (again reading comprehension is not your strength) but I would argue that it means having a chance to win (most teams in Nat Pro have no shot at winning.. no shot at pulling off an upset.. these teams have no business here).

It's hilarious how you understand wanting "the struggle to compete" but just don't get that's what the top 3-5 teams in each Nat Pro conference wants too. Continue making all the excuses you want but it doesn't change the fact that what is killing Nat Pro is that it is too big. It is boring for the handful of teams that are competitive (capable of winning) and a waste of time/frustrating for those too young to compete or not good enough (whatever your excuse may be). That is a recipe for failure.

I would ask you to go reread the above and point where I said I like blowouts but I fear what I said will go right over your head a second time, as usual.

You need to stop focusing on lolEL and the like, they can give some idea about a team but are definitely not reliable. LOL at you for thinking it is an accomplishment for staying in OPL for 9 season. It is so easy to get into Nat Pro that Bort promotes teams that don't want to be promoted just because they need teams to promote. The only way you demote out of Nat Pro is if you gut.

It is hilarious how delusional you are. You missed the playoffs in seasons 18, 19, 20 and 21. The only reason you made the playoffs the last two seasons is because OPL keeps getting worse (losing good teams faster than we gain them). Not to mention you lost both playoff games by 100... keep believing you belong in OPL

It is you that doesnt get it and you never will. You just are not up to it.

As to the Nat Pro too big thing, what part of this is a business do you not get? Would it be soooo much cooler if the top teams were all nearly equal, yeah it would be for those teams - no doubt. But thats not enough paying customers. Its NOT easy getting into Nat Pro, not at all. Its not insurmountably hard but its not easy. If you halve the size of it, its that much harder. What that does, in addition to making a few teams have a few more enjoyable games, is move the goal line away from a much vaster portion of the player base - to the point where it may seem too diffcult to attain and the players lose interest. That kills the entire cash cow for everyone, because Bort needs those striving teams from the lower leagues to keep GLB going.

Now I will grant it MIGHT be easier to do with 5 season plateaus than 3. So there may be some wiggle room from my stance on this pre-S24 due to teams having a little more time to climb the ladder and beat on the gate. But National Pro can not be made into a WL like difficulty to get into. It would kill the game. If they can balance that so that it works, Okay. I would much prefer another path (more Nat Pro, and WL as a post season tourney) but that would be a decent choice if it can be made to work.

But I really tend to doubt it can and keep the game running.

And btw, you missed the conference championship game season in your thrashing of my team. Cherry Picker.

Originally posted by The Big Cack Envy
thats fair enough

Great,l PM me with your thoughts on what you might like to do.

Originally posted by yello1
Great,l PM me with your thoughts on what you might like to do.

simply put, I get teams into the playoffs and occasionally find an exploit or some other fool trick that gets them hardware.

Moai will be there next season. Back to playoff form.


If i dont get fired

Originally posted by The Big Cack Envy
simply put, I get teams into the playoffs and occasionally find an exploit or some other fool trick that gets them hardware.

Moai will be there next season. Back to playoff form.


If i dont get fired



You should OC my EEPL team

Originally posted by yello1
As to the Nat Pro too big thing, what part of this is a business do you not get? Would it be soooo much cooler if the top teams were all nearly equal, yeah it would be for those teams - no doubt. But thats not enough paying customers. Its NOT easy getting into Nat Pro, not at all. Its not insurmountably hard but its not easy. If you halve the size of it, its that much harder. What that does, in addition to making a few teams have a few more enjoyable games, is move the goal line away from a much vaster portion of the player base - to the point where it may seem too diffcult to attain and the players lose interest. That kills the entire cash cow for everyone, because Bort needs those striving teams from the lower leagues to keep GLB going.

Now I will grant it MIGHT be easier to do with 5 season plateaus than 3. So there may be some wiggle room from my stance on this pre-S24 due to teams having a little more time to climb the ladder and beat on the gate. But National Pro can not be made into a WL like difficulty to get into. It would kill the game. If they can balance that so that it works, Okay. I would much prefer another path (more Nat Pro, and WL as a post season tourney) but that would be a decent choice if it can be made to work.

But I really tend to doubt it can and keep the game running.

And btw, you missed the conference championship game season in your thrashing of my team. Cherry Picker.

lolcherrypicked You still cant see the big picture... that your team hasnt been relevant in 6, well 7 now, seasons. I am not even going to get into how you entered OPL when it was in the worst shape it has ever been again cause that is obviously way out of your realm of understanding.

Again it is ridiculous easy to reach Nat Pro... hell the real challenge of regional pro is to keep your team from promoting. There is no disputing this. It has been ridiculously easy at least since they did away with AAA (though it was still really easy the last few seasons of AAA) and converted to the regional pro cloud.

That said, apparently you have not listened to one discussion involving the "hemisphere" idea. All you hear is contracting Nat Pro which to you means that your team, the one that does not provide a challenge for the real competition in OPL, is forced back into Reg Pro to face teams more on your playing field and you are no longer a "Pro" team. You completely ignore the other option of creating a buffer league between Nat Pro and WL to so that those, like yourself, who are in need of the self-esteem boost that you have reached "Pro" can be satisfied. Its not as good as just contracting Nat Pro but it is an option. Also, if they were to contract the Nat Pro, as they should do, it has been proposed that they demote more than just the bottom two from each conference (ie. demoting/promoting 4-6 from each conference). This makes it harder for border-line teams to stay in Nat Pro but it gives more teams an opportunity at Nat Pro despite halving the size of Nat Pro. This means teams like OTM wouldnt waste the leagues time for 7+ seasons but instead maybe 3-4 seasons out of 7... maybe just maybe it forces them to find ways to improve so that they might stick. It is just not healthy for a league when a CPU team like AGT's can sit in OPL for an extended amount of time. That is a problem and you are more delusional than I ever imagined if you disagree with that.

I team swapped into opl after puttiing the team together a season before....second season here.....i can say that OPL needs half of these shit teams to gut. That or take a page from my teams book and actually gameplan. Hadn't gameplanned in 10 seasons and had no problem beat OTM last season. If you want yello let me help you. Give me forum access and let me see builds. Ill be honest with you about what needs to change. Pm me if ur interested in some help.