Warrior General Games

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1692435

oops, sry cant open build. Basically better in everything except agi, speed, and stam (too much tackling), better equip.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1604560 - I'll take him. Even with you adding 3 strength,PMs strength + agility is only 1 pt behind even with only 3 AEQ. Speed is 6 pts higher. Tackling is higher, vision is much higher, he has FS to 9, shed block to 6, and wall and break through are both at 4.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1901751 - it will be interesting to see how this one turns out. I'm going 3 AEQ with him as well, although I'm going to replace the +2 agility, +2% BB piece with a +3, +5% piece. I'll probably go strength since he should end up with 97 natural agility since I'm normal training agility right now. Going to put 1 more pt in for 11 sp next with first 2 boosts next season before I roll it over. Then I'll train it up 2 more pts.

I'm only taking speed to 61 cap though, and I'll finish out his last 2 seasons training jumping after I'm done with agility and roll speed over.

I think I'll spend 50 sp in wall and break through to get them both to 10 with AEQ. Get strong base as the SA for the 3rd piece and take it to 4 natural.

I should have about 6 sp left, not sure where I'm going to put those.

Originally posted by Rage Kinard
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1901751 - it will be interesting to see how this one turns out. I'm going 3 AEQ with him as well, although I'm going to replace the +2 agility, +2% BB piece with a +3, +5% piece. I'll probably go strength since he should end up with 97 natural agility since I'm normal training agility right now. Going to put 1 more pt in for 11 sp next with first 2 boosts next season before I roll it over. Then I'll train it up 2 more pts.

I'm only taking speed to 61 cap though, and I'll finish out his last 2 seasons training jumping after I'm done with agility and roll speed over.

I think I'll spend 50 sp in wall and break through to get them both to 10 with AEQ. Get strong base as the SA for the 3rd piece and take it to 4 natural.

I should have about 6 sp left, not sure where I'm going to put those.

He'll get 14 hurries, 19 tackles, 1 FF and get 0 PD's, 0 sacks and 0 TFL's with that speed...same ole, same ole WL prototype DT build and stats.

Originally posted by The Avenger
He'll get 14 hurries, 19 tackles, 1 FF and get 0 PD's, 0 sacks and 0 TFL's with that speed...same ole, same ole WL prototype DT build and stats.

yes, and you know this because you have seen tons of DTs that have over 100 base strength and 97+ base agility?


100+ speed DTs have been tried, and they failed. Will 140 strength/100 speed work where 130 strength/100 speed failed?

Possibly.

It's still just an improvement on a failed prototype

Originally posted by The Avenger
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1330584&playoffs=0

Yep - that is a 99.79 - 90.79 base, not a 101.73 / 97.73 base, and MB has less vision.


http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=980363 - I tried this one with 120 strength, 104 speed, 90 agility back in some preseason and post season games back in S16/17. It failed (I realize it's only 120/100 but it was several seasons ago when opposing OL builds weren't as good). He worked much better with 140 strength and 84 speed.

I've seen 130 strength /100 speed tried since and it didn't have any success either.

It doesn't mean 140 strength / 100 speed won't work, it just means that if it does, it is working as the result of improving on a failed prototype.

lol @ avenger trying to give build advice

Here you go. I ran this through builder. If you want to try a speed build, it should probably look something like this.


Player Build
Position: dt_combo_tackle
Season: 13
Day: 1
Level: 75
XP: 71
VA XP: 775
VA: 66
Bonus Tokens: 955
Training Points: 0
SP: 0

Training Status:
strength : 0%
speed : 5%
agility : 0%
jumping : 56%
stamina : 3%
vision : 1%
confidence : 2%
blocking : 0%
throwing : 0%
catching : 0%
carrying : 0%
tackling : 0%
kicking : 0%
punting : 0%

Attributes:
strength : 102.66
speed : 93.78
agility : 89.44
jumping : 28
stamina : 55
vision : 63.23
confidence : 51.44
blocking : 9.44
throwing : 8
catching : 8
carrying : 8
tackling : 33.22
kicking : 8
punting : 8

Top SA Tree: | 2 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Bottom SA Tree: | 7 | 10 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Additional SA Tree: | 10 |

(add shed block AEQ and 2 BB% pieces) put 40 pts in strength and 15 in speed. Add Run stuffer CE.

Attributes:
strength : 142.66 (+40)
speed : 108.78 (+15)
agility : 89.44
jumping : 28
stamina : 55
vision : 63.23
confidence : 51.44
blocking : 9.44
throwing : 8
catching : 8
carrying : 8
tackling : 33.22
kicking : 8
punting : 8

Top SA Tree: | 2 | 10 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
Bottom SA Tree: | 8 | 11 | 1 | 1 | 1 |
Additional SA Tree: | 10 | (FS)

Originally posted by Rage Kinard

It doesn't mean 140 strength / 100 speed won't work, it just means that if it does, it is working as the result of improving on a failed prototype.

Should be interesting to see how my DT turns out:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2015463

Will likely end up with ~102 base strength, ~88 agility, and ~80 speed. But I don't think 80 speed is really enough to be considered a "speed build".

Originally posted by saintedix
Should be interesting to see how my DT turns out:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2015463

Will likely end up with ~102 base strength, ~88 agility, and ~80 speed. But I don't think 80 speed is really enough to be considered a "speed build".

Yeah, there are builds out there now with 100 base strength 90+ base agility and over 80 base speed.


http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2024191 - this one will have 97 base strength, 97 base agility, and 93 base speed end build.

Originally posted by Rage Kinard
Yeah, there are builds out there now with 100 base strength 90+ base agility and over 80 base speed.


http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=2024191 - this one will have 97 base strength, 97 base agility, and 93 base speed end build.

You should pick a new position to go apeshit about rage...


build some de's that look similar to your dt's and they'd be unstoppable

so how would you finish this build rage?

Originally posted by Dpride59
so how would you finish this build rage?


pm sent since the answer depends on a few different factors.