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Rage Kinard
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Originally posted by Flippin Hog
So bottom line with my dot above, he's got enough (too much) Agility at this point? I can put all future equipment in Speed, right? Strength to 81.

How about VAs? Do I need to switch JTS in the offseason? Pass Rusher? Streaky when I can put 15 in it? Would Bull Rusher or Heavyweight be effective yet for him with that Strength? What are your 2nd and 3rd choices and their order?


Without putting any more equipment or sp into agility it will end up at 120. That is the high end of where I would suggest based on what I've seen, but Tautology probably knows better than I do. I may just not have seen the builds able to carry over 120 agility and have the supporting attributes to make it work.
 
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Thanks guys. I've got a direction now.
 
xuchilles
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I think Speed and Agility should be pretty close with Speed > agility

105 Speed / 99 Agility
First Step, Tunnel Vision, Break Block Advanced Equipment

I don't think > 9 in an SA is worth the SP. So going 4 natural and getting 5-6 from an AE.

Strength I don't put equipment in but getting to 77 natural is a goal by say 64.
Vision - 48 not sure higher than that is worth it.

 
tautology
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Originally posted by Rage Kinard
Without putting any more equipment or sp into agility it will end up at 120. That is the high end of where I would suggest based on what I've seen, but Tautology probably knows better than I do. I may just not have seen the builds able to carry over 120 agility and have the supporting attributes to make it work.


120 agility is definitely viable right now, though I'd say it's currently at the upper limit of what a good build can support.

 
Boozer1011
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Originally posted by tautology
120 agility is definitely viable right now, though I'd say it's currently at the upper limit of what a good build can support.



hmm, instead of making another post, any input on how to proceed with this build, in regards to equipment? Taking STR to at least 81 right now...

Flash Powers (Lv. 50 DE)
Ht/Wt: 6'1", 255lbs

Experience, Skill Points, and Cash
Money: $0
Daily Salary: $6000
Skill Points: 12
Training Points: 6
Bonus Tokens: 10
Veteran Points: 4
Next Level: 354/1000

Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 74.44
Speed: 84.51
Agility: 123.41 (+38)
Jumping: 30.6
Stamina: 50.84
Vision: 63.61
Confidence: 44.94

Football Skills
Blocking: 8
Catching: 8
Tackling: 53.51
Throwing: 8
Carrying: 8
Kicking: 8
Punting: 8

Special Abilities
Containment Abilities
Swat Ball: 0
Wall: 0
Strong Base: 0
Diving Tackle: 0
Monster Hit: 0

Pass Rusher Abilities
First Step: 5
Change Direction: 1
Shed Blocks: 1
Tunnel Vision: 1
Big Sack: 1

Additional Abilities
Relentless Pursuit: 0
Veteran Abilities
Streaky: 15
Technique Man: 15

Current Bonuses/Penalties
Break block chance: +17%

Edited by Boozer1011 on Apr 15, 2011 16:58:13
 
regoob2
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Originally posted by Boozer1011
hmm, instead of making another post, any input on how to proceed with this build, in regards to equipment? Taking STR to at least 81 right now...

Flash Powers (Lv. 50 DE)
Ht/Wt: 6'1", 255lbs

Experience, Skill Points, and Cash
Money: $0
Daily Salary: $6000
Skill Points: 12
Training Points: 6
Bonus Tokens: 10
Veteran Points: 4
Next Level: 354/1000

Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 74.44
Speed: 84.51
Agility: 123.41 (+38)
Jumping: 30.6
Stamina: 50.84
Vision: 63.61
Confidence: 44.94

Football Skills
Blocking: 8
Catching: 8
Tackling: 53.51
Throwing: 8
Carrying: 8
Kicking: 8
Punting: 8

Special Abilities
Containment Abilities
Swat Ball: 0
Wall: 0
Strong Base: 0
Diving Tackle: 0
Monster Hit: 0

Pass Rusher Abilities
First Step: 5
Change Direction: 1
Shed Blocks: 1
Tunnel Vision: 1
Big Sack: 1

Additional Abilities
Relentless Pursuit: 0
Veteran Abilities
Streaky: 15
Technique Man: 15

Current Bonuses/Penalties
Break block chance: +17%



Id say str to at least 83. Try and get vis to 68+ and Tackling to the next cap. Also cap confidence.
 
Racktacular
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Originally posted by Homage
In my experience with DE's in the WL so far... I'd argue that you really shouldn't bother with agility over whatever is probably going to net you the Technique Man bonus 99.9% of the time.


This is a what I was thinking and a great point IMO.

So with that in mind, assuming natural 81 agility, what number (with eq.) are we talking about? 130? That would allow technique man to fire on any OT build with 115 agility or less.

 
Homage
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Originally posted by Racktacular
This is a what I was thinking and a great point IMO.

So with that in mind, assuming natural 81 agility, what number (with eq.) are we talking about? 130? That would allow technique man to fire on any OT build with 115 agility or less.



Uh you just need over 10% whatever the tackle has. If you're a RE and the LT has 110 let's say... you'll need 121+ etc.
And 81 natural agility is really low for a lvl 72+ build. Unless you're not counting the ALG's?
 
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