Originally posted by WiSeIVIaN
I'd agree that you don't wanna shoot for lower than 130 in GLB 2 years from now.
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I'd agree that you don't wanna shoot for lower than 130 in GLB 2 years from now.
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Originally posted by QB Eater
We all know Powerback's make their money with inside running and with power. But they still need a minimum amount of SP and the ability to run outside would help limit tagging. What is a reasonable goal for a Powerback to attain for SP in the end game?
If you have enough Strength, Carrying, % Break Tackle, VAs, and tackle breaking SAs, you don't need more than 90 speed, but that will mostly preclude your ability to get to the outside. On the otherhand, it won't matter if they are tagging you because you will get 3-4 YPC on most inside runs, often more because you will break 3 tackles every play. Especially with Bruiser and SYM going. I would also put a lot of points in First Step, because power tackle breaking will stop you quite a bit, and this will help you keep your momentum to break the next tackle.
On the otherhand, 100 strength, 120 speed, 90 carrying will be able to pretty much the same as the above, but will also be able to get to the outside better. Problem is, you lose most of your SYM ability for a power tackle breaker when going to the outside, so it is risky. I don't like running combo or elusive on my powerbacks because they tend to not have the agility to pull it off, so mostly what people are calling powerbacks these days are actually combo 'tackle breaker' backs because of their speed and spin elusiveness.
We all know Powerback's make their money with inside running and with power. But they still need a minimum amount of SP and the ability to run outside would help limit tagging. What is a reasonable goal for a Powerback to attain for SP in the end game?
If you have enough Strength, Carrying, % Break Tackle, VAs, and tackle breaking SAs, you don't need more than 90 speed, but that will mostly preclude your ability to get to the outside. On the otherhand, it won't matter if they are tagging you because you will get 3-4 YPC on most inside runs, often more because you will break 3 tackles every play. Especially with Bruiser and SYM going. I would also put a lot of points in First Step, because power tackle breaking will stop you quite a bit, and this will help you keep your momentum to break the next tackle.
On the otherhand, 100 strength, 120 speed, 90 carrying will be able to pretty much the same as the above, but will also be able to get to the outside better. Problem is, you lose most of your SYM ability for a power tackle breaker when going to the outside, so it is risky. I don't like running combo or elusive on my powerbacks because they tend to not have the agility to pull it off, so mostly what people are calling powerbacks these days are actually combo 'tackle breaker' backs because of their speed and spin elusiveness.
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If SP catches on for speed, I am going to be so confused. Hopefully no dyslexic gets on here and gets people using ALG as short for agility.
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Speed is underrated for powerbacks. Everyone thinks they need like 130 strength and only 90/100 speed. I would say the other way around. That'd be a real freight train.
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Originally posted by razor9
Speed is underrated for powerbacks. Everyone thinks they need like 130 strength and only 90/100 speed. I would say the other way around. That'd be a real freight train.
actually everyone has been saying for several seasons that a PB needs 130 speed
Speed is underrated for powerbacks. Everyone thinks they need like 130 strength and only 90/100 speed. I would say the other way around. That'd be a real freight train.
actually everyone has been saying for several seasons that a PB needs 130 speed
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Originally posted by Time Trial
If you have enough Strength, Carrying, % Break Tackle, VAs, and tackle breaking SAs, you don't need more than 90 speed, but that will mostly preclude your ability to get to the outside. On the otherhand, it won't matter if they are tagging you because you will get 3-4 YPC on most inside runs, often more because you will break 3 tackles every play. Especially with Bruiser and SYM going. I would also put a lot of points in First Step, because power tackle breaking will stop you quite a bit, and this will help you keep your momentum to break the next tackle.
On the otherhand, 100 strength, 120 speed, 90 carrying will be able to pretty much the same as the above, but will also be able to get to the outside better. Problem is, you lose most of your SYM ability for a power tackle breaker when going to the outside, so it is risky. I don't like running combo or elusive on my powerbacks because they tend to not have the agility to pull it off, so mostly what people are calling powerbacks these days are actually combo 'tackle breaker' backs because of their speed and spin elusiveness.
I would love to see a PB with under 100 speed at the Pro/WL level that averages 3 ypc
If you have enough Strength, Carrying, % Break Tackle, VAs, and tackle breaking SAs, you don't need more than 90 speed, but that will mostly preclude your ability to get to the outside. On the otherhand, it won't matter if they are tagging you because you will get 3-4 YPC on most inside runs, often more because you will break 3 tackles every play. Especially with Bruiser and SYM going. I would also put a lot of points in First Step, because power tackle breaking will stop you quite a bit, and this will help you keep your momentum to break the next tackle.
On the otherhand, 100 strength, 120 speed, 90 carrying will be able to pretty much the same as the above, but will also be able to get to the outside better. Problem is, you lose most of your SYM ability for a power tackle breaker when going to the outside, so it is risky. I don't like running combo or elusive on my powerbacks because they tend to not have the agility to pull it off, so mostly what people are calling powerbacks these days are actually combo 'tackle breaker' backs because of their speed and spin elusiveness.
I would love to see a PB with under 100 speed at the Pro/WL level that averages 3 ypc
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Originally posted by dss02
I would love to see a PB with under 100 speed at the Pro/WL level that averages 3 ypc
I'd like to see one keep a spot on a roster, let alone see one average anything. lol
I would love to see a PB with under 100 speed at the Pro/WL level that averages 3 ypc
I'd like to see one keep a spot on a roster, let alone see one average anything. lol
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Originally posted by Forbin
I'd like to see one keep a spot on a roster, let alone see one average anything. lol
maybe casual pro?
I'd like to see one keep a spot on a roster, let alone see one average anything. lol
maybe casual pro?
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Originally posted by Stephenthegreat
More speed = more favorable match ups outside / less stacking inside
If you combine a rushing QB/Rushing FB with a powerback, and they stack the box all game, you are going to be able to hit the outside with your QB, FB, or on the screens. Maybe I'm wrong, but if they over sell on one threat, they are just giving up too much to another.
Originally posted by dss02
I would love to see a PB with under 100 speed at the Pro/WL level that averages 3 ypc
Originally posted by Forbin
I'd like to see one keep a spot on a roster, let alone see one average anything. lol
Well, I guess if no one builds one and no one gives one a chance, the defense won't be looking for one when someone does do it.
It has always been the case that people get too comfortable with what works and what doesn't in GLB that when someone does something unexpected everyone says it is overpowered and needs to be nerfed.
Everyone starts thinking break tackle, so defenses stock up on make tackle. Someone comes in with Juke, Head Fake, Open Field Fake, and 33% fake chance and suddenly defenses start needing to worry about the %fake chance pieces.
Then the true powerbacks make a comeback because they have 120 Strength, 120 Carrying, and no one in the middle has enough make tackle gear to shut them down.
I know it isn't quite as extreme as that, but it is part of the evolution of the dynamics of this game. When everyone said speed kills, the powerback made a comeback... and got nerfed to hell because the DCs couldn't stop them with the personnel they chose for defense.
The season of the iSlam is coming back, and in not too long.
More speed = more favorable match ups outside / less stacking inside
If you combine a rushing QB/Rushing FB with a powerback, and they stack the box all game, you are going to be able to hit the outside with your QB, FB, or on the screens. Maybe I'm wrong, but if they over sell on one threat, they are just giving up too much to another.
Originally posted by dss02
I would love to see a PB with under 100 speed at the Pro/WL level that averages 3 ypc
Originally posted by Forbin
I'd like to see one keep a spot on a roster, let alone see one average anything. lol
Well, I guess if no one builds one and no one gives one a chance, the defense won't be looking for one when someone does do it.
It has always been the case that people get too comfortable with what works and what doesn't in GLB that when someone does something unexpected everyone says it is overpowered and needs to be nerfed.
Everyone starts thinking break tackle, so defenses stock up on make tackle. Someone comes in with Juke, Head Fake, Open Field Fake, and 33% fake chance and suddenly defenses start needing to worry about the %fake chance pieces.
Then the true powerbacks make a comeback because they have 120 Strength, 120 Carrying, and no one in the middle has enough make tackle gear to shut them down.
I know it isn't quite as extreme as that, but it is part of the evolution of the dynamics of this game. When everyone said speed kills, the powerback made a comeback... and got nerfed to hell because the DCs couldn't stop them with the personnel they chose for defense.
The season of the iSlam is coming back, and in not too long.
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Originally posted by dss02
I would love to see a PB with under 100 speed at the Pro/WL level that averages 3 ypc
May I introduce you to "RUSTY PICKLE"
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1420018
He is at 2.8ypc and stayin steady there...playing for the 1-10 Cult of Personalities.
Anyone want to Haiku about it?
I would love to see a PB with under 100 speed at the Pro/WL level that averages 3 ypc
May I introduce you to "RUSTY PICKLE"
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1420018
He is at 2.8ypc and stayin steady there...playing for the 1-10 Cult of Personalities.
Anyone want to Haiku about it?
Edited by ImTheScientist on Feb 10, 2011 12:59:36
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Originally posted by ImTheScientist
Originally posted by dss02
I would love to see a PB with under 100 speed at the Pro/WL level that averages 3 ypc
May I introduce you to "RUSTY PICKLE"
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1420018
He is at 2.8ypc and stayin steady there...playing for the 1-10 Cult of Personalities.
Anyone want to Haiku about it?
LOL
I wonder why he hasn't updated his thread lately..
Originally posted by dss02
I would love to see a PB with under 100 speed at the Pro/WL level that averages 3 ypc
May I introduce you to "RUSTY PICKLE"
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1420018
He is at 2.8ypc and stayin steady there...playing for the 1-10 Cult of Personalities.
Anyone want to Haiku about it?
LOL
I wonder why he hasn't updated his thread lately..
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Originally posted by Bukowski
LOL
I wonder why he hasn't updated his thread lately..
Probably because the WL is much tougher than AA is....as we all told him..LOL
LOL
I wonder why he hasn't updated his thread lately..
Probably because the WL is much tougher than AA is....as we all told him..LOL
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Originally posted by
Everyone starts thinking break tackle, so defenses stock up on make tackle. Someone comes in with Juke, Head Fake, Open Field Fake, and 33% fake chance and suddenly defenses start needing to worry about the %fake chance pieces.
well considering spin is still better than every fake, i don't see this happening anytime soon.
Everyone starts thinking break tackle, so defenses stock up on make tackle. Someone comes in with Juke, Head Fake, Open Field Fake, and 33% fake chance and suddenly defenses start needing to worry about the %fake chance pieces.
well considering spin is still better than every fake, i don't see this happening anytime soon.
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