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Originally posted by Shrazkil
Yeah, that is true, i have had one of my players keep messing up my cap efficiency by gaining a point mid way through, but in the end...its still a point up, and every other stat continuing to gain at exceptional efficiency. Plus quad training after the cap 68-92 is stilll quite effecient in my book(roughly 1 to 1.5 points per season (5-20+ skill point value) ), so long as you still have at least one of the quads under 33-39.

For the moment, i still firmly believe 5-6 seasons of quadding , broken up after the first 3 straight seasons, is going to be the way to go if you are seeking highest SP/training efficiency while still getting full EQ.

What does the bolded part mean?

How many AEQ can one have at the end of a dots life if you use that much bonus tokens on training?

Originally posted by Racktacular
What does the bolded part mean?


after 3 seasons, you switch between relaxed training and quad training based on what your attribute values are.

Basically you try not to train attributes between 38-48, 55-60. If you get to a spot where attributes are there you go to relaxed train until you are ready to cap the attribute.

The only thing is if you have an attribute at say 55 and you only plan on getting it to 61 or 62 end build anyway, it doesn't hurt to keep training it as part of quad training if the other 3 attributes are in the right place.

Originally posted by Racktacular
Originally posted by Shrazkil

Yeah, that is true, i have had one of my players keep messing up my cap efficiency by gaining a point mid way through, but in the end...its still a point up, and every other stat continuing to gain at exceptional efficiency. Plus quad training after the cap 68-92 is stilll quite effecient in my book(roughly 1 to 1.5 points per season (5-20+ skill point value) ), so long as you still have at least one of the quads under 33-39.

For the moment, i still firmly believe 5-6 seasons of quadding , broken up after the first 3 straight seasons, is going to be the way to go if you are seeking highest SP/training efficiency while still getting full EQ.

What does the bolded part mean?


I will do three straight seasons of quadding , then a season of normal or light, then come back to quadding, then kinda back and forth till i get some of the quad stats at cap, and catch up AEQ ,then continue to train them on quad.

A dot can get all 4 piesces of AEQ with 6 seasons of quadding and 5 of light, assuming your average cost of AEQ is 67.5 (this accounts for 80-100 points of BT going towards unlocking as well, and 2-3 skil points)

Originally posted by Battleking69
How many AEQ can one have at the end of a dots life if you use that much bonus tokens on training?

It cost 240 BT to upgrade 2 piece of AEQ to level 72. 4 pieces cost 960. Then you have the cost to obtain. I figure an average of 70 per piece with some more and some less. So 960 + 280 = 1240.

6 seasons of relaxed training nets you roughly 1008 bonus tokens. So you only need to save 232 of the roughly 420 BTs you would get with 5 seasons of multi-train.

If you are willing to go with 3 pieces of AEQ, then you only need 930, so you could multi-train for 8 seasons and relaxed for 3 and get 1176 BTs.

If you are willing to go with 2 pieces of AEQ (the average for obtaining should go up to 90 since they should both be % pieces and if you shop you have less choices) Then you will need roughly 660 BT and you will earn roughly 910.

Originally posted by Shrazkil
I will do three straight seasons of quadding , then a season of normal or light, then come back to quadding, then kinda back and forth till i get some of the quad stats at cap, and catch up AEQ ,then continue to train them on quad.

A dot can get all 4 piesces of AEQ with 6 seasons of quadding and 5 of light, assuming your average cost of AEQ is 67.5 (this accounts for 80-100 points of BT going towards unlocking as well, and 2-3 skil points)

Thanks Rage and Shraz. So if you break up Quad and normal/relaxed training after 3 seasons, what do you do during the first 2 seasons? Normal/Relaxed training only?

Originally posted by Rage Kinard
after 3 seasons, you switch between relaxed training and quad training based on what your attribute values are.

Basically you try not to train attributes between 38-48, 55-60. If you get to a spot where attributes are there you go to relaxed train until you are ready to cap the attribute.

The only thing is if you have an attribute at say 55 and you only plan on getting it to 61 or 62 end build anyway, it doesn't hurt to keep training it as part of quad training if the other 3 attributes are in the right place.

Interesting, never heard of that. Do you mind explaining the reasoning behind that?

Let's say you have two choices. Training an attribute at 48.10 or an attribute at 33.0 ok?

It takes 17 training sessions (unenhanced) to raise the first one one point, and 10 to raise the 2nd one by the same amount. You'd think the 2nd one is better, but it isn't, because while it took 17 sessions to get 2 SP on the first case, it will take you 20 sessions to get 2 SP on the 2nd case.

The issue is trying to train only when it is efficient, for example, it's better to train immediately after the first cap than between 33 and 48. It's better to train after 60 than between 53 and 60. It's better to train after 68 than between 64 and 68 and from that point on it really doesn't matter anymore.

It's one of the very important tricks of training, the other one being leaving an attribute at 95+% before you finish capping it, then with 1-3 training sessions you get like 20+ equivalent SPs by bringing it up once. Do it in all your attributes you're raising above 68 and you're getting huge value.

Originally posted by Racktacular
Originally posted by Shrazkil

I will do three straight seasons of quadding , then a season of normal or light, then come back to quadding, then kinda back and forth till i get some of the quad stats at cap, and catch up AEQ ,then continue to train them on quad.

A dot can get all 4 piesces of AEQ with 6 seasons of quadding and 5 of light, assuming your average cost of AEQ is 67.5 (this accounts for 80-100 points of BT going towards unlocking as well, and 2-3 skil points)

Thanks Rage and Shraz. So if you break up Quad and normal/relaxed training after 3 seasons, what do you do during the first 2 seasons? Normal/Relaxed training only?


OHH you misunderstand, quad training should be happening your first 3 seasons. You want to train on normal or normal/intense for your first attribute until it reaches 30-34 then begin quad training by day 1 at least of your very first season.

So, is the math to go quad training already after 48 capping first attribute. Or is it better to single train 48-51, 60-63 too?

Rage stated it above. Best to train right after a cap and rollover. And yes include it in your quad regiment.

And never ever dual-train guys. Minimum 3 attributes! I really think double train should get 3 BT. 3-4-6 BTs respectively. Keep bonus there so 2x2 doesnt = quad trains %s.

Can someone tell me in english plz

Originally posted by djggames
Can someone tell me in english plz

If you want it in simpler way: read the Wiki, it has good basic guidelines. But please quad-train as soon as possible.

Originally posted by BiggerBlue
Originally posted by djggames

Can someone tell me in english plz

If you want it in simpler way: read the Wiki, it has good basic guidelines. But please quad-train as soon as possible.


where is the wiki