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Originally posted by JStrong101
Caramel..you sir are an idiot!


Where I come from, themz some fightin words.

Originally posted by SmoothCaramel
American football is the lazy man's sport. Play 5 seconds, rest 40 seconds, play another 5, rest for another 40.

Rugby League is a real sport, combining power and endurance. Terrible video games, though.

Rugby is worse for your brain than boxing. And like Jstrong said, if you kept going, you wouldn't have a chance to catch your breath, as taking the hits most players do result in basically being breathless.

As a QB and WR, I've taken a fair share of hits and most times it takes a few seconds for me to catch my breath. Even in lacrosse, same thing.

I played football in college.

I also played on some Rugby club teams.

First of all, you get plenty of opportunities to rest in Rugby as well. You have to be ready to sprint at any moment, but there are lots of time to rest both between play (like before a line-out or a scrum) as well as during play (in the middle of a ruck, lined up as a back or on defense waiting for the ball to be dug out).

I can't compare apples to apples b/c I was an OG or DE in football battling on the line, and I was a winger (a back) in rugby. I would say I ran more in rugby (even comparing to HS football when I only left the field when when we were kicking off). But I was more tired after a football game (I found 70 violent collisions more tiring than running a few miles).

But on another note, a rugby prop will run a lot more than a football LT. But I would say that a person playing both ways as something like a WR & DB is very comparable to most rugby backs as far as the amount you run/rest.

Originally posted by enasty19
Rugby is worse for your brain than boxing.

Where did you hear that? Count me as extremely skeptical.

Rugby does have far fewer serious injuries than football (but a lot more minor ones like stitches, etc). Idiots wearing pads think they're invincible and just slam into anything. In rugby there are some good collisions, but you actually have to know how to tackle, and the hits are typically much softer in rugby than in football. Even with 2 guys at near full-speed, I'd much rather have a guy stick his shoulder in my chest/gut while wrapping up his tackle on me than to have a guy launch himself helmet first at my head.

Originally posted by PING72
Where did you hear that? Count me as extremely skeptical.

Rugby does have far fewer serious injuries than football (but a lot more minor ones like stitches, etc). Idiots wearing pads think they're invincible and just slam into anything. In rugby there are some good collisions, but you actually have to know how to tackle, and the hits are typically much softer in rugby than in football. Even with 2 guys at near full-speed, I'd much rather have a guy stick his shoulder in my chest/gut while wrapping up his tackle on me than to have a guy launch himself helmet first at my head.

Saw it somewhere while reading about boxing. I personally feel that it's even, as like you said, rugby is more of a skill tackle than a throw my head/body at you tackle. But in boxing, the purpose is basically to beat your brains in, so. Most boxers become veggies, never spoken to a pro rugby player....

watch this dude... I saw it in a movie once.......

Originally posted by PING72
I played football in college.

I also played on some Rugby club teams.

First of all, you get plenty of opportunities to rest in Rugby as well. You have to be ready to sprint at any moment, but there are lots of time to rest both between play (like before a line-out or a scrum) as well as during play (in the middle of a ruck, lined up as a back or on defense waiting for the ball to be dug out).

I can't compare apples to apples b/c I was an OG or DE in football battling on the line, and I was a winger (a back) in rugby. I would say I ran more in rugby (even comparing to HS football when I only left the field when when we were kicking off). But I was more tired after a football game (I found 70 violent collisions more tiring than running a few miles).

But on another note, a rugby prop will run a lot more than a football LT. But I would say that a person playing both ways as something like a WR & DB is very comparable to most rugby backs as far as the amount you run/rest.

Its hard to explain to a foreigner (thats right, Im not the foreigner here!) but there is a huge difference between "Rugby" and "Rugby League"

The main being in Rugby, the teams are only metres apart, so the hits are not as brutal as rugby league, where they are 10 metres apart.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2BbddCszTo

Sorry, just stirring the ants nest for a couple of pre-season lolz.

Cool vid timmy, though for me it was choppy as hell. The Steve Matai tackle at 53 sec is awesome.

PING, as timmy said, that's Rugby (Rugby Union). There are certainly a lot of times when the ball is out and you can rest, especially when a British side is playing. In Rugby League, the ball is in play a lot more and when a tackle is made, the defending side has to get back 10 metres (approx yards) before the ball is played or they're 'offside' and can be penalised. Often you'll see the ball go from one end to the other every minute or 2.

There are 13 players on the field and 4 reserves, with a maximum of 10 changes allowed in the game, usually the same 4-6 players are rotated on and off. In Rugby Union there's 15 on the field with 7 reserves, and once you go off you can't come back on (there are some circumstances where you can).

BUT American football is a game of acceleration, power and impact, and couldn't be played that way without the Off and Def squads etc. It just wouldn't be physically possible.

Originally posted by SmoothCaramel
American football is the lazy man's sport. Play 5 seconds, rest 40 seconds, play another 5, rest for another 40.

Rugby League is a real sport, combining power and endurance. Terrible video games, though.

Australian Rules Football combines skill speed endurance power and aerobic capacity for 30minute quarters ...the game is continuous with the only breaks being between quarters, unless you are substituted ...ya need to have a lot more fitness to play AFL!

3:1 there is probably someone reading this thread who actually cares, about as much as anyone cares about my comment as well.

now.. on to football

so.. the Cowboys season looks tough this year, as usual. cant wait for pre season to start.

Originally posted by ericb45696
so.. the Cowboys season looks tough this year, as usual. cant wait for pre season to start.

They should be concerned with their vendors at the stadium for starters.

I am about 100,000 percent sure the speed to size ratio of the NFL is absolutely the highest, by far, of any sport.

I am also under the impression, that given the task, a rugby team, from any league, or any other non NFL 'football' athletes that NFL players would absolutely out-lift them all.

Essentially, if you want to see people running around in circles, with a bit more purpose than just running track, and heck, even some great collisions involved.

Also don't get "injury proneness" of a sport confused with the physical demand for it, being "tough" is hardly deniable whether the pain be bones that get broken because you people are too stupid to put pads on, or just the bruises, each are pain which you must fight past, and since our brain has very limited capability (you'd be surprised) to really indicate level of pain, particularly in moments of high adrenaline, this seems like more than a mute point.

To sum it up, and for those tl;dr, NFL athletes are absolutely outstanding figures of exactly that, athleticism and that this is un-matched by ANY other sport.

I hardly consider a small, seemingly incorrect, variation of "stamina" or "endurance" which you bring to question with your "stop and take a break" comments as a true means to overcome the massive strength, and size that NFL athletes bring to the table.

One last little comment:

The objective of a defensive player on a NFL team on any given play is to seek out, and utterly destroy the person with the ball, with no real emphasis on any other aspect on the game, but literally to destroy him.

A soccer player, may, in the heat of battle, get a big hit...

LOL

Hey I am not debating the NFL v Rugby League comment, I am just trying to enlighten the Americans that Rugby and Rugby League are not as similar as it would seem.

No doubt NFL athletes would out-lift a Rugby League player, but they are different athletes designed to do different things.

I would encourage you guys to actually watch a full game of Rugby League, but please not Rugby Union..... that is Rugby Yawnion if you get my drift.

My father played rugby in the navy, I grew up watching/playing rugby frequently.