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Sweet, some discussion.

yeah id say fearsome of jump the snap. Ive always wanted to put jump the snap on my two guys but just havent been able to yet. Might be the next VA I work on though. Maybe you could do streaky. All in all though, with only 109.73 speed I dont think you will be as successful at blitzing as youd like. might be able to get some coverage sacks, but i dont know about being a sack threat every down. Just to give you an idea, my two ROLBs have almost 130 speed.

Originally posted by blueballz02
Your math is wrong...just saying. And even check scrims and playoffs. Its not about getting 10 sacks a game, that will never happen vs good teams. But 1-4 is possible and he did that vs the good teams

how is it wrong? in s16, the only games that werent blow outs (as counted by the sim) were G2, G3, G6, G8, and G10 (5 games. 16-5=11). in which games you recorded, 1, 1, 1, 2, and 2 sacks (1+1+1+2+2=7, 98-7=91). so im pretty sure your math is wrong... just sayin'.

and im not saying that your LB is bad... just probably isnt a good as you think he is. throwing up your LB as an example of why someone should choose certain VAs when the LBs you put up havent really put up numbers out of the ordinary that a LB that didnt have those VAs couldnt have also also probably put up.

Originally posted by blueballz02
it doesnt help with hurries. It just makes the QB feel hurried.
is that not what constitutes a hurry? making the QB feel hurried?

as for your build tilly, i think it looks fine. you didnt take speed high enough, and its too late to really work on it now, but if you manage to get 4 pieces of fully upgraded lvl 72 AE, you will probably be looking at 145 speed or so.

and for VAs, i would go with DvG, JtS, FBG or TbT, and fearsome or PR

Originally posted by Worker 3

is that not what constitutes a hurry? making the QB feel hurried?


It doesnt show up in stats is what he means.

Originally posted by Worker 3
as for your build tilly, i think it looks fine. you didnt take speed high enough, and its too late to really work on it now, but if you manage to get 4 pieces of fully upgraded lvl 72 AE, you will probably be looking at 145 speed or so.

and for VAs, i would go with DvG, JtS, FBG or TbT, and fearsome or PR
This is an end-build. Retirement is likely after this season.

Decline sets in next season as this is one of my non-boosters.

Id consider game 9 not a blowout either. Was a good playoff team. Just killed them for 28 pts in the 4th quarter. He had 4 sacks that game. So thats 15 sacks in 6 games...little more than 2 a game. As the Def coord, id take that every game if I got it. I think you're focusing on trying to make a LB who can get 5+ sacks a game. And no matter how good or perfect the build it just isnt gonna happen. If you watch our replays, teams actually started gameplanning againts BB's backers. By putting the TE to block on the left side. So even if he wasnt getting sacks, he was making our coverage easier by not havign to cover the TE, and both guys had close to 100 hurries which is a huge help too and caused numerous INTs.

Anyway, I appreciate the discussion everyone.

Good info provided.

Originally posted by Tilly

This is an end-build. Retirement is likely after this season.

Decline sets in next season as this is one of my non-boosters.

oh, well im not used to giving advice to non boosters, haha. i just see what level you are and then base everything as if you will be getting to level ~73.


and i actually think a LB with 5 sacks a [competitive] game is reasonable and do-able... hasnt been done yet (to my knowledge), but i think i could be done if you have the right players *cough* full strength based DL *cough*, but thats another matter entirely.

Originally posted by Worker 3
oh, well im not used to giving advice to non boosters, haha. i just see what level you are and then base everything as if you will be getting to level ~73.


and i actually think a LB with 5 sacks a [competitive] game is reasonable and do-able... hasnt been done yet (to my knowledge), but i think i could be done if you have the right players *cough* full strength based DL *cough*, but thats another matter entirely.

also only if teams pass alot on you. We ran into the problem alot where teams ran extremely heavy on us because of our blitzing backers(BB's guys).

well if you have a full strength based DL, that kind of solves the issue of the teams running all over you... but again. thats a different issue entirely, probably for another thread.

Originally posted by blueballz02
Your math is wrong...just saying. And even check scrims and playoffs. Its not about getting 10 sacks a game, that will never happen vs good teams. But 1-4 is possible and he did that vs the good teams

Your LB numbers in close games look great to me. And 2 of the VAs (streaky, and track star) are 2 that I would go with. I would still go with jump the snap and football genius over fearsome though.

Originally posted by coreyls18
If you watch our replays, teams actually started gameplanning againts BB's backers. By putting the TE to block on the left side. So even if he wasnt getting sacks, he was making our coverage easier by not havign to cover the TE, and both guys had close to 100 hurries which is a huge help too and caused numerous INTs.

That BB guy says he blitzed 99% of the time, so you also have to consider his coordinator is putting him in a dream position for any blitzing LB's success. If the LB is good and the scheme is not only good but also designed so he can be a star..... you'll get his sick numbers. It proves he's good and that's that. It doesn't prove greatness.

And as for gameplanning for him and moving a TE to his side and all those things.... well, what kind of offensive coordinator wouldn't take into account a guy that he knows will blitz 99% of the time? Saying teams gameplan around his blitzing is like saying teams gameplan around the NT being lined up near the middle of the line.

Originally posted by Worker 3
there arent a ton of times i agree with UD, but i do have to agree with him here. you did get a lot of sacks, but you also had 11 blow out games accounting for 91 of 98 of your sacks for season 16 on josh hurst jr. just sayin'.

There isn't a ton of times I have seen you either. Maybe like 4 times since I came back?