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68guns
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Originally posted by Bleeds
but if you're in the red you don't get any of the morale bonuses, so that's a terribad idea.


i'm with MOOGZ on this one - but I haven;t ( or should I say) cant do the math on it!!
 
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Originally posted by 68guns
i'm with MOOGZ on this one - but I haven;t ( or should I say) cant do the math on it!!


well, you could get a super sweet morale boost for 32 days and then be in the red (and get no morale bonus) for the playoffs.

your call.
 
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The 'red' you all are refering to is actual team $$$. The luxury tax shows up in red, sure, but it has nothing to do with your actual team cash besides the fact that going over the cap means you pay a bit more in nightly salary which is paid from your teams money.

Going over the salary cap turns your surplus of cap money(black) into a deficit instead(red) . This kind of red has a positve effect on morale by nature . The team cash being red is the evil bad red that no one wants. Your players don't get paid and lose the salary based morale bonus. Totally unrelated to the salary cap or morale bonus's is the 10 days of unpaid wages resulting in a players ability to leave the team. That has always been an option.

We have nothing to pay for in Pee Wee besides salary. Your one and only financial goal should be to finish the season with $0.00 dollars or maybe even a days salary in the red if your final game is d39. $750-800k or so over the cap was perfect for a silver team last season without including any extra playoff revenue. Playoffs certainly aren't gauranteed these days for some of the midmajor teams on the wrong side of these lopsided silver leagues, so an owner with more bravado than myself would have to do the math that would include any post season revenue.
 
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Originally posted by Bleeds
well, you could get a super sweet morale boost for 32 days and then be in the red (and get no morale bonus) for the playoffs.

your call.


True, but playoffs? come on.... If I wanted that I would have gone back to copper.
 
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Originally posted by Moogz
Originally posted by Bleeds

well, you could get a super sweet morale boost for 32 days and then be in the red (and get no morale bonus) for the playoffs.

your call.


True, but playoffs? come on.... If I wanted that I would have gone back to copper.


you guys are the anomaly.

most teams are figuring out how to win a championship. The Wookies are figuring out how to ruin dreams for others regardless of their own success.

don't get me wrong, I love it. but for a vast majority of teams what you described is suicidal, not an exploit.
 
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I honestly dont really see why the extra Moral is such a big deal... All Pee Wee players pretty much still end up at the minimum by the end of the game because none of us invest in confidence. All it does is give you an extra 3-10 morale so that you start over 100 for the game.
 
Stixx
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I could be completly wrong but I really didnt notice a big effect on moral except for QBs and WRs but they toned down moral halfway through the season
 
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It does help, it gives your team an opportunity to be playing @ more than minimum morale for longer than the opposing team, this could easily be the game-deciding factor in every close low-scoring game, whether we know it or not, in a game based on random after random after random roll, its nice to be able to control the sim in every way possible, thus employing salary cap is a means of doing such, for that.
 
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i just sent max contracts to 55 players....

we'll see what happens
 
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Originally posted by permastoned
It does help, it gives your team an opportunity to be playing @ more than minimum morale for longer than the opposing team, this could easily be the game-deciding factor in every close low-scoring game, whether we know it or not, in a game based on random after random after random roll, its nice to be able to control the sim in every way possible, thus employing salary cap is a means of doing such, for that.


Well I guess that's good to give us Pee Wee players more to use to win I actually kinda like it but now we cant just use the auto-send script
 
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Originally posted by 1kwerdna
i just sent max contracts to 55 players....

we'll see what happens


You will likely loose your team...

175K is max contract, I think, and if you have all 55 players with that, that;s 962.5K in total salary, not including luxury tax. I think a Pee-Wee team maxes our their earnings around 550K, meaning you will run out of money around mid-season, but won't be able to do anything about it since Pee-Wee doesn't allow contract renegotiations.
 
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I'm pretty sure that peewee teams earn more than 550k. I've seen peewee teams with 3.5 mil before mid seasons
 
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Look like we're dancing around the real question. What is the average salary per player which would keep our teams from going in the red while maximizing morale boost? There, I said it
 
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Depends on what you mean by going in the red.

Do you mean in terms of salary cap or overall money???

If it's salary cap, then simply divide the salary cap of each peewee league ( $3,500,000 i think) by 55 and you have your answer.

The thing is, however, it's ok to be in the red in terms of salary cap, but NOT in terms of overall money. It's impossible to tell what to offer and not going in the red overall because we don't know how much you will get in revenue.
 
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I meant in terms of overall money. What you said makes sense, though. I guess i was looking for someone with experience who has a good sense (from their experience) of what will keep our money out of the red. I understand that revenue is variable (to a degree) and there's no exact answer. From those of you with experience, how much revenue did you bring in with a fairly average to good team?
 
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