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Besides just having more sps, what would be a better combination?

Originally posted by Flashdance
Besides just having more sps, what would be a better combination?

That is a decent ratio for a pass rusher.

I would want a little more strength and speed, but I would not really want agility lower.

Originally posted by tautology
That is a decent ratio for a pass rusher.

I would want a little more strength and speed, but I would not really want agility lower.



5 more speed at the most. And strength is highly overrated for a pass rusher, There's not much difference between 80 and 90-95 and he'd be much less effective at rushing the passer.

Originally posted by Voltron
5 more speed at the most. And strength is highly overrated for a pass rusher, There's not much difference between 80 and 90-95 and he'd be much less effective at rushing the passer.

Agreed on strength, though it certainly makes a difference in the run game. I would want speed higher for sure though on a pure pass rusher.

Originally posted by Voltron
5 more speed at the most. And strength is highly overrated for a pass rusher, There's not much difference between 80 and 90-95 and he'd be much less effective at rushing the passer.

I disagree that Strength is overrated on pass rushers.

Good OLinemen dominate pure pass rushers. Pure pass rushers are a dying breed.

Originally posted by tautology
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i concur (and continue to build pancake-proof +agility DL)

This is my DE right now. I'm going to put 5 more sps into speed to make it 77 and then train it over to 78. After that I'm going to pump strength up to 77 and put the rest of my eq into strength. Is it safe to say that ~60 tackling and vision are sufficient? If I do this, then i wont be hitting SAs until ~58 is that too late?

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I was thinking of getting agility at 140+ by his end build??

Originally posted by Flashdance
Is it safe to say that an end build of 92-85-115 for a RDE is pretty descent?

that's pretty good, but like others said, I wouldn't go less than that on agility. A good LT can have enough AGI to cancel out technique man if you go any lower.

Originally posted by
I was thinking of getting agility at 140+ by his end build??

that's fine but you'd most likely sacrifice too much spd/str to do so. You could easily have 85-90spd/135-140agi but then you'd have ~76 str max with lower vis and suffer in SA's some too.

I didn't follow the sim much since I took a long break from the game but my 78 str/90spd/137agi DE didn't do much this year. Part of that was being stuck on STs but in addition it seems you at least need some ability to rev-cake now to be any good consistently.

WL MVP DE this past season only ran 110 agility with more speed than most of these people are running.

He'll be capable of pushing it to 120+ with eq swaps next season, but I don't think it needs to be that high. You need some speed to hit the QB before he gets the throw off, even with TV and FS.

I think the main goal should be to get Agi to 111+, as that gets you the 10% that you'll need for Technique Man to work on 99% of the LOT's out there.

Originally posted by taurran


I think the main goal should be to get Agi to 111+, as that gets you the 10% that you'll need for Technique Man to work on 99% of the LOT's out there.
Is the 10% with equipment?

Originally posted by theinfamous
Originally posted by taurran

I think the main goal should be to get Agi to 111+, as that gets you the 10% that you'll need for Technique Man to work on 99% of the LOT's out there.
Is the 10% with equipment?


Per the wording of the VA, it should be. I have no reason to believe otherwise.

Originally posted by tautology
Agreed on strength, though it certainly makes a difference in the run game. I would want speed higher for sure though on a pure pass rusher.

I do not think so simply because good str based OL can dominate a pure passrushing DE. We can argue about is this fair in another thread, but the reason str seems overrated is because DEs can't catch up to OL, but that is no reason for DEs to not add str to 90s. I personally think spd is overrated once it passes the 80s and there's really no reason to up them to 90s-100s.

Originally posted by BiggerBlue
I do not think so simply because good str based OL can dominate a pure passrushing DE. We can argue about is this fair in another thread, but the reason str seems overrated is because DEs can't catch up to OL, but that is no reason for DEs to not add str to 90s. I personally think spd is overrated once it passes the 80s and there's really no reason to up them to 90s-100s.


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