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PING72
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Originally posted by Time Trial
Interesting read. Dharma would like to challange for a top 25 spot. Any silver team in the top 20 that wants to set up a ranked scrimmage can feel free to do so.


44th? I guess the SoS of Gold East is killing you. Looking at this thing, it looks like you should be in s1 or s7!
 
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Originally posted by juiceweezl
Heck, just use a team that comes up in this discussion practically every season since the Gold inception -- Final Thought. Every season they are supposed to be the best, but where are they at? They're still in Silver.


I think you just made me cry,

 
bmac1188
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its the fact that you need to weigh Gold league games moreso than Silver league games. Its obvious that's where the best competition so all the Gold league games should count twice to every Silver league game or some type of weighing to compensate for the level drop off between the two different leagues. Then it would be more balanced if you could find a way to weigh the 2 differently
 
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I appreciate the work that was done to get this done...I dont get how theres a silver team that hasnt played one scrimmage or any Gold teams in the top 15...fariview shadow cats i think it is...I assume SOS includes scrimages in this case, so I dont understand that one
 
Kaerey
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Originally posted by MGeezy2186
I appreciate the work that was done to get this done...I dont get how theres a silver team that hasnt played one scrimmage or any Gold teams in the top 15...fariview shadow cats i think it is...I assume SOS includes scrimages in this case, so I dont understand that one


Yes it does include Ranked Scrimmages, strength of schedule looks to play a major role in this check the WL/Pro thread that was referenced for the exact formula.

This is great discussion fodder. I love it.

And even if anyone disagrees with this, you gotta admit it's better than what we had before in terms of All Silver/Gold Rankings, which is nothing.
 
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I think its a great job...I think that however, a top 10 Gold team should always be ranked above a silver team, and i dont mean that as a jab at the silver teams, because some of you guys are great great teams, and have proven to be included in the elite teams, but you guys are not playing a Gold league schedule which is just redonkulous..in silver there are quite a few good teams that require gameplanning, but for the most part you can get away with cruise control...i think there are 3 or 4 games total where I really havent gameplanned this season...

that being said, i do believe that the rankings are the best thing we have had to date, and I appreciate the work the OP did
 
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Originally posted by MGeezy2186
I appreciate the work that was done to get this done...I dont get how theres a silver team that hasnt played one scrimmage or any Gold teams in the top 15...fariview shadow cats i think it is...I assume SOS includes scrimages in this case, so I dont understand that one


Essentially, as he said, some teams are on islands, meaning they haven't played many scrimmages, or played very many quality teams who have played scrimmages, so the script tends to favor middle-of-the road teams who have great records against middle-of-the road teams over a team with a mediocre record facing the better teams.
 
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I like it! I do agree it isn't 100% accurate because of the lack of scrimmages.

I can see that my team needs to scrimmage more to offset getting handled by 3 teams in the tournaments.

Losses to 1, 6, 19, 36, 77, 83 (2 unranked) and I can't complain about my position.

It does tell me that I need to be more active in scrimmages next season if I want to be ranked higher.

Maybe an addition would be that you have to have a certain number of scrimmages to be counted in the top # of positions.
 
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Originally posted by juiceweezl
I was hoping you had crawled in a hole somewhere and abandoned this crap, but alas that's not the case.


Internet grudges are hilarious. Get over it bud. I don't even know who you are.
Edited by 1kwerdna on May 7, 2010 13:24:47
 
juiceweezl
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Originally posted by PING72
I think you just made me cry,



Sorry, Ping. Not intended as a stab. You guys are a great team, as everyone knows -- certainly worth of Gold. I think that in itself is proof about how tough Gold is and that the teams there each season are good even if their record is .500.
 
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Originally posted by Kaerey
This is great discussion fodder. I love it.

And even if anyone disagrees with this, you gotta admit it's better than what we had before in terms of All Silver/Gold Rankings, which is nothing.


Thanks, Kaerey for getting out what I rambled on about. I love the rankings and the ensuing discussion -- as long as everyone realizes it doesn't really weight the difficulty of Gold.
 
juiceweezl
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Originally posted by 1kwerdna
Internet grudges are hilarious. Get over it bud. I don't even know who you are.


I hold no grudge. I just hate seeing your worthless posts just about everywhere you troll.
 
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Man I'm number 15 ima have to stab somebody or something
 
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Damn should have made that game vs. Revolver ranked maybe we would be in the top 10
 
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Originally posted by juiceweezl
Sorry, Ping. Not intended as a stab. You guys are a great team, as everyone knows -- certainly worth of Gold. I think that in itself is proof about how tough Gold is and that the teams there each season are good even if their record is .500.


I think its more proof that S7 is a really strong league, considering several teams that always do at least decent in the tournys seem to have had gold elude them for many seasons, not because Gold teams are tough, but because the teams coming out of S7 being so tough.

The fact that S7 has obviously done pretty good in scrimmages this season (the number of S7 teams towards the top 50 is relatively high compared to what I had expected) only furthers my believe that there are 4-5 teams that (they may not be the most deserving silver teams as far as should be welcomed into gold) would do well in Gold currently resting in S7.
 
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