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Kaerey
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Originally posted by Time Trial
Here's some highlights from my last game:

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1163547&pbp_id=8931324



Oh come on! 3 missed tackles like that deserves to be a TD. Get some Str/Tackling Hell's Demon Seeds!
 
robbbeck
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Originally posted by No Fear
ST are horrible this season!!! This return was after a nice 7 minute drive...

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1163375&pbp_id=8929622

Can someone tell me WTF my guys are doing at the end of the play?!?! Looks like somebody tilted the field while we were running!!!


I think they gave up and started running toward the bench to eat some more pixie sticks.
 
LordEvil
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I was scouting this team and noticed this game was decided by special teams as well.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=1180772
 
juiceweezl
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This message is endorsed by the DSBM. I actually mentioned it to Snake last season. I still keep up with ST as that's how I got started coordinating. Snake stays on top of everything, but I thought they were getting ridiculous last season. Now it's just stupid. We've dropped one game where we dominated the box score but gave up 2 returns on punts. We had another close win because of giving up one. It's just stupid.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=1163506

 
Stixx
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ST almost cost us our first loss today

http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=1165211


They had two returns for TDs...
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1165211&pbp_id=9429447
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1165211&pbp_id=9430798
 
Time Trial
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I boosted my special teams only players because I didn't want to be on the wrong side of a shitty deal.

Instead it has helped me to win a couple.
 
fakie92
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Originally posted by The Greatest DTD
ST almost cost us our first loss today

http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=1165211


They had two returns for TDs...
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1165211&pbp_id=9429447
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1165211&pbp_id=9430798


great returns
 
Stixx
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Originally posted by fakie92
great returns


 
Jumping_Snake
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I'm agreeing with Juice on this one!
I already spat in our forums a tad bit about how the vision of returners seems to have skyrocketed from running straight into defenders or juking themselves right out of bounds to being able to jump back and forth for about 5 seconds, confusing defenders before they eventually get a blocker on them or just sitting in their spot, waiting for blockers before shooting out.

Cases in point:
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1163505&pbp_id=6424138
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1163506&pbp_id=7260191






 
_OSIRIS_
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This is the way to stop punt return TDs.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=1164051
 
Kaerey
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Originally posted by _OSIRIS_
This is the way to stop punt return TDs.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/game.pl?game_id=1164051


I like it!

I just about go schooled today, and not because of fluke returns and what not, but by a team that consistently had amazing ST play. One of only a few teams that I've seen that just have great balanced STs
 
EatDaBeaver
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I won my last game and my last scrimmage off of special teams without changing anything from the previous weeks where my special teams had little to no impact.

For now I wish you all would shhhsshhh... because apparently I somehow ninja-predicted the changes and now have a pretty amazing PR team (KR could still use some help) almost every punt seems to be almost a TD...

I'm thinking that this may also have a bit to do with better blocking AI, anytime you make a tiny adjustment to the sim it could make drastic impacts... so it could be more than just a simple vision boost to the returner, or even the distance of the kick...

To me it just seems like people are blocking better, not that the Returner is doing too much less random stutters... but maybe my players builds have just finally gotten to the point where they can block, or the sim is loving me with my hold block rolls...

I refuse to believe that its a good idea to make any "pee wee only" adjustment though... I think the pee-wee league is meant to be unconventienal... and I kind of like the idea of special teams playing as big of a role as they have lately....

I know when I played Pee-Wee my team had 4 total offensive touchdowns in the season and I alone had 10 KR/PR TDs, so as much as you guys claim its invalid... I think it applies rather well...
 
Dead.Ed
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Originally posted by EatDaBeaver

... and I kind of like the idea of special teams playing as big of a role as they have lately....


I don't, considering how GLB is set up. Offense has OAI, playbook, you can actually game-plan; Defense has DPC, DAI, etc. What does Special Teams have? Depth Chart. It's all luck.
 
EatDaBeaver
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Is it luck? I don't think the same casual teams win every season because of luck...

Limiting control does not make the game more luck-based, everyone endures the same rolls on every play... essentially if you attempt to take luck out of the game you'll take the fun out of it...

The point is to put the best player, with the highest morale/energy(energy tactics) in the best position (via build/dc) to get "lucky" on the rolls that occur throughout the play... If I didn't see hints of consistency around the Leagues I'd be as concerned as you guys are... Until then I refuse to believe that its not me making these PR TDs happen and that it is just random luck.

(I just thought of it....)

It is of course LUCK that you rolled successful blocks across the board to score a TD... but it is not random luck... and thats the difference...
 
EatDaBeaver
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I also consider it pretty lucky when my SS/FS decides to just stand there and dance in circles while a Rushing QB gets by every once in awhile... but if that didn't exist then I'd never ever rush my qb against anyone with a defense to stop it at all...

but considering theirs always the chance your beastly WR pancakes 2 guys and breaks it big for you... you still run the play...

Luck is part of strategy... and is about the only realistic part of this game...
 
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