Not many, actually. Our team was overkill though. Undefeated in regular season for 3 seasons but we kept losing in the playoffs vs crap teams.
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Originally posted by Djinnt
Originally posted by rob vancuren
My guy had plenty of INTs with high speed and low agility...lol
Probably a lot of passes allowed too.
Also, along with the ints, he also had alot of PDs.
Originally posted by rob vancuren
My guy had plenty of INTs with high speed and low agility...lol
Probably a lot of passes allowed too.
Also, along with the ints, he also had alot of PDs.
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64 INTs? meh, a little above average
642 PDs? above average
710 Tackles? just from a numbers standpoint, that isnt good. im not going to go through all your game tape to see how many were from runs and such, but that is a little high, so my guess is that you probably do give up a fair number of passes as well
which isnt necessarily a bad thing since you are getting INTs (in lolcasual, but an INT is still an INT). but you cant claim that your guys shots down his man and gets INTs. the 2 rarely 100% coincide over the course of a season let alone a career.
642 PDs? above average
710 Tackles? just from a numbers standpoint, that isnt good. im not going to go through all your game tape to see how many were from runs and such, but that is a little high, so my guess is that you probably do give up a fair number of passes as well
which isnt necessarily a bad thing since you are getting INTs (in lolcasual, but an INT is still an INT). but you cant claim that your guys shots down his man and gets INTs. the 2 rarely 100% coincide over the course of a season let alone a career. Edited by Worker 3 on May 4, 2010 10:23:43
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Originally posted by Worker 3
64 INTs? meh, a little above average
642 PDs? above average
710 Tackles? just from a numbers standpoint, that isnt good. im not going to go through all your game tape to see how many were from runs and such, but that is a little high, so my guess is that you probably do give up a fair number of passes as well which isnt necessarily a bad thing since you are getting INTs (in lolcasual, but an INT is still an INT). but you cant claim that your guys shots down his man and gets INTs. the 2 rarely 100% coincide over the course of a season let alone a career.
I ment in a short amount of time he did well.
And when you say they rarely become shutdown along with getting INT, that's exactly what he did.
64 INTs? meh, a little above average
642 PDs? above average
710 Tackles? just from a numbers standpoint, that isnt good. im not going to go through all your game tape to see how many were from runs and such, but that is a little high, so my guess is that you probably do give up a fair number of passes as well
which isnt necessarily a bad thing since you are getting INTs (in lolcasual, but an INT is still an INT). but you cant claim that your guys shots down his man and gets INTs. the 2 rarely 100% coincide over the course of a season let alone a career. I ment in a short amount of time he did well.
And when you say they rarely become shutdown along with getting INT, that's exactly what he did.
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Originally posted by rob vancuren
And when you say they rarely become shutdown along with getting INT, that's exactly what he did.
yeah in gut job ridden leagues. s9,11,and 13, you had a total of 15 competitive games... and by competitive i mean games decided by 59 pts or less. in the blow out games those seasons you got 36 of your 64 INTs, 337 of your 642 PDs, and 123 of your 712 tackles. so in 33 games, you got over half of your INTs, over half of your PDs, and a good 1/7 of your tackles. take out those numbers, and youre down to 28 INTs, 305 PDs and 589 TKLs in 52 games. so on average, you were getting .53 INTs per game, 5.8 PDs per game, and 11.32 Tkls per game (doesnt seem so shut down to me). now granted there are more blow out numbers in there as i didnt look at all your seasons and take out all the numbers, but i still think it goes to show you that most of your super amazing stats were in blow out games, and in competitive games, there really is no way to both consistently shut down and get INTs. it may happen every now and then, but you cannot make a CB that does both very well.
And when you say they rarely become shutdown along with getting INT, that's exactly what he did.
yeah in gut job ridden leagues. s9,11,and 13, you had a total of 15 competitive games... and by competitive i mean games decided by 59 pts or less. in the blow out games those seasons you got 36 of your 64 INTs, 337 of your 642 PDs, and 123 of your 712 tackles. so in 33 games, you got over half of your INTs, over half of your PDs, and a good 1/7 of your tackles. take out those numbers, and youre down to 28 INTs, 305 PDs and 589 TKLs in 52 games. so on average, you were getting .53 INTs per game, 5.8 PDs per game, and 11.32 Tkls per game (doesnt seem so shut down to me). now granted there are more blow out numbers in there as i didnt look at all your seasons and take out all the numbers, but i still think it goes to show you that most of your super amazing stats were in blow out games, and in competitive games, there really is no way to both consistently shut down and get INTs. it may happen every now and then, but you cannot make a CB that does both very well.
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11.32 tackles per game? Not sure that statistic is right...
And getting .53 INTs per game, 5.8 PDs per game, and 11.32 Tkls per game seems shut out to me...
And getting .53 INTs per game, 5.8 PDs per game, and 11.32 Tkls per game seems shut out to me...
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Originally posted by rob vancuren
11.32 tackles per game? Not sure that statistic is right...
And getting .53 INTs per game, 5.8 PDs per game, and 11.32 Tkls per game seems shut out to me...
yeah, youre right i for some reason thought your guy had only played 52 games or something?? haha
but that brings your averages down to lets see... those blow off stats that i brought up excluded, .21 INTs per game, 2.31 PDs per game, and 4.46 TKLs per game. which isnt terrible, but averaging that many TKLs per game means you are probably giving up more passes than a real shutdown guy is giving up. my lvl 45 for instance, isnt quite what i would call a shutdown CB (ive seen better), but in contrast to your guy, all blow out games excluded, is averaging 2.3 PDs per game (about as many as you), but only 2.8 TKLs per game, and sadly only .14 INTs per game. so while you average more INTs, you also average more TKLs which probably means you have given up more passes, which means you maybe arent much of a shutdown guy as you are a play maker. which isnt a bad thing. my retired lvl 63 was definitely a play maker, but you cant really do both well- get INTs and shut down your man.
11.32 tackles per game? Not sure that statistic is right...
And getting .53 INTs per game, 5.8 PDs per game, and 11.32 Tkls per game seems shut out to me...
yeah, youre right i for some reason thought your guy had only played 52 games or something?? haha
but that brings your averages down to lets see... those blow off stats that i brought up excluded, .21 INTs per game, 2.31 PDs per game, and 4.46 TKLs per game. which isnt terrible, but averaging that many TKLs per game means you are probably giving up more passes than a real shutdown guy is giving up. my lvl 45 for instance, isnt quite what i would call a shutdown CB (ive seen better), but in contrast to your guy, all blow out games excluded, is averaging 2.3 PDs per game (about as many as you), but only 2.8 TKLs per game, and sadly only .14 INTs per game. so while you average more INTs, you also average more TKLs which probably means you have given up more passes, which means you maybe arent much of a shutdown guy as you are a play maker. which isnt a bad thing. my retired lvl 63 was definitely a play maker, but you cant really do both well- get INTs and shut down your man.
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Originally posted by Worker 3
yeah, youre right i for some reason thought your guy had only played 52 games or something?? haha
but that brings your averages down to lets see... those blow off stats that i brought up excluded, .21 INTs per game, 2.31 PDs per game, and 4.46 TKLs per game. which isnt terrible, but averaging that many TKLs per game means you are probably giving up more passes than a real shutdown guy is giving up. my lvl 45 for instance, isnt quite what i would call a shutdown CB (ive seen better), but in contrast to your guy, all blow out games excluded, is averaging 2.3 PDs per game (about as many as you), but only 2.8 TKLs per game, and sadly only .14 INTs per game. so while you average more INTs, you also average more TKLs which probably means you have given up more passes, which means you maybe arent much of a shutdown guy as you are a play maker. which isnt a bad thing. my retired lvl 63 was definitely a play maker, but you cant really do both well- get INTs and shut down your man.
Exactly, a shutdown corner is going to have low stats because he kept his guy covered and the QB threw elsewhere
yeah, youre right i for some reason thought your guy had only played 52 games or something?? haha
but that brings your averages down to lets see... those blow off stats that i brought up excluded, .21 INTs per game, 2.31 PDs per game, and 4.46 TKLs per game. which isnt terrible, but averaging that many TKLs per game means you are probably giving up more passes than a real shutdown guy is giving up. my lvl 45 for instance, isnt quite what i would call a shutdown CB (ive seen better), but in contrast to your guy, all blow out games excluded, is averaging 2.3 PDs per game (about as many as you), but only 2.8 TKLs per game, and sadly only .14 INTs per game. so while you average more INTs, you also average more TKLs which probably means you have given up more passes, which means you maybe arent much of a shutdown guy as you are a play maker. which isnt a bad thing. my retired lvl 63 was definitely a play maker, but you cant really do both well- get INTs and shut down your man.
Exactly, a shutdown corner is going to have low stats because he kept his guy covered and the QB threw elsewhere
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Originally posted by Djinnt
Originally posted by Djinnt
Probably a lot of passes allowed too.
Watch game films if you insist. I don't think all too many were.
Originally posted by Djinnt
Probably a lot of passes allowed too.
Watch game films if you insist. I don't think all too many were.
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Originally posted by smax
Originally posted by Worker 3
yeah, youre right i for some reason thought your guy had only played 52 games or something?? haha
but that brings your averages down to lets see... those blow off stats that i brought up excluded, .21 INTs per game, 2.31 PDs per game, and 4.46 TKLs per game. which isnt terrible, but averaging that many TKLs per game means you are probably giving up more passes than a real shutdown guy is giving up. my lvl 45 for instance, isnt quite what i would call a shutdown CB (ive seen better), but in contrast to your guy, all blow out games excluded, is averaging 2.3 PDs per game (about as many as you), but only 2.8 TKLs per game, and sadly only .14 INTs per game. so while you average more INTs, you also average more TKLs which probably means you have given up more passes, which means you maybe arent much of a shutdown guy as you are a play maker. which isnt a bad thing. my retired lvl 63 was definitely a play maker, but you cant really do both well- get INTs and shut down your man.
Exactly, a shutdown corner is going to have low stats because he kept his guy covered and the QB threw elsewhere
That's makes alot of sense.
Originally posted by Worker 3
yeah, youre right i for some reason thought your guy had only played 52 games or something?? haha
but that brings your averages down to lets see... those blow off stats that i brought up excluded, .21 INTs per game, 2.31 PDs per game, and 4.46 TKLs per game. which isnt terrible, but averaging that many TKLs per game means you are probably giving up more passes than a real shutdown guy is giving up. my lvl 45 for instance, isnt quite what i would call a shutdown CB (ive seen better), but in contrast to your guy, all blow out games excluded, is averaging 2.3 PDs per game (about as many as you), but only 2.8 TKLs per game, and sadly only .14 INTs per game. so while you average more INTs, you also average more TKLs which probably means you have given up more passes, which means you maybe arent much of a shutdown guy as you are a play maker. which isnt a bad thing. my retired lvl 63 was definitely a play maker, but you cant really do both well- get INTs and shut down your man.
Exactly, a shutdown corner is going to have low stats because he kept his guy covered and the QB threw elsewhere
That's makes alot of sense.
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