Warrior General Games

Originally posted by Enders
Originally posted by dviss1

And we are arguing about it.

You couldn't convince me to spend SPs to take Agility to 81 on any kind of HB. It would eventually get over 81 through ALGs, but I wouldn't spend the SP to take it that high.

I said arguably the 81 cap..... Not trying to convince you to do anything. Some people might think that's a good option for them.
By saying arguably I mean I would think about it. Not neccesarily do it. However I would definitely get agility to 77. That is my point.

Originally posted by dviss1
I said arguably the 81 cap..... Not trying to convince you to do anything. Some people might think that's a good option for them.
By saying arguably I mean I would think about it. Not neccesarily do it. However I would definitely get agility to 77. That is my point.

I know, I was saying that you couldn't convince me to take it to 81 so its not arguable for me (I wouldn't even consider it), thus we aren't arguing

85+ natural speed and agility ftw.

Originally posted by dviss1
I don't see either build having a difference in agility. Both should get AGI to the 77, arguably the 81 cap.

+1

Originally posted by Nuge20
85+ natural speed and agility ftw.

Through the ALGs yeah. If you take both speed and agility to 77, then you'll have one of them over 90 and another one somewhere between 85-90 naturally.

Depends on what you mean by a Spin back.

Is he using Spin as his primary means of breaking tackles or is he using Spin as a supplement?

Originally posted by boomer82
Depends on what you mean by a Spin back.

Is he using Spin as his primary means of breaking tackles or is he using Spin as a supplement?

Spin should NEVER be a primary means of breaking tackles. It's always a supplement IMO.

Originally posted by dviss1
Spin should NEVER be a primary means of breaking tackles. It's always a supplement IMO.

Spin has easily become a primary after the changes. Backs are spinning like crazy now.

All you do is get your build up to the proper caps then add to spin.. same as before... The only thing that has changed is the buff.

Originally posted by dviss1
All you do is get your build up to the proper caps then add to spin.. same as before... The only thing that has changed is the buff.

And now you should add more into Spin.

Originally posted by dviss1
Spin should NEVER be a primary means of breaking tackles. It's always a supplement IMO.

yeah my Spinback is tearing up WEPL

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1039944

plays like this

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=1118761&pbp_id=7926479

make me smile a little.

Originally posted by dviss1
All you do is get your build up to the proper caps then add to spin.. same as before... The only thing that has changed is the buff.

And the buff has made Spin (currently) a great primary bt skill

Spin Back-
87.61 Natural Speed
80.54 Natural Agility
73.25 Natural Carry
60.52 Natural Strength
48.07 Natural Vision
48.07 or 60.53 Natural Stamina
48.07 Natural Confidence

AEQ
1 piece of 5% Break Tackle / + Attribute
1 piece of Spin / Attribute

VA's
Quick Feet - 15
Steady Grip - 15

Not sure how well Slippery works yet as compared to running a Spin back on 50 Power w/ Bruiser.

Something along these lines.

Originally posted by Saints4Life08
Spin Back-
87.61 Natural Speed
80.54 Natural Agility
73.25 Natural Carry
60.52 Natural Strength
48.07 Natural Vision
48.07 or 60.53 Natural Stamina
48.07 Natural Confidence

AEQ
1 piece of 5% Break Tackle / + Attribute
1 piece of Spin / Attribute

VA's
Quick Feet - 15
Steady Grip - 15

Not sure how well Slippery works yet as compared to running a Spin back on 50 Power w/ Bruiser.

Something along these lines.

Well if you're building a Spin back you need a lot of bt% so Slippery would be 100% necessary. SYM also gives a great bt%/+Spin% bonus so, again, I'd view that as a required VA.

3 AEQs is easy to get/maintain especially with a small SP investment into Spin.

2x 5% bt pieces
1x Spin piece

I'd also look at dropping his natural Agi a bit to increase Strength, maybe drop a touch of Speed as well for the same thing. Strength is going to help your natural bt% enough that you can afford to be a touch slower imo.

Originally posted by Dirty Mo Posse
One works with the current SIM and one doesn't.



DMP

This SO HARD