Warrior General Games

Originally posted by Enders
A faster power back will get to the same spot faster, and more than likely further since he'll be moving faster. What good is all that strength if you aren't fast enough to do anything besides bounce around until someone tackles you?

Less Strength, More speed, maybe a bit more agility

Defenses are just too fast to be running around with only 69 speed.
...defined combo-back.

Originally posted by MARSHH

...defined combo-back.

The faster your going, the more likely you are to break a tackle. A combo back will use fakes and agility along with power and speed. A powerback just uses power and speed. Its a fine line, but without speed, all you have is a 3rd down back.

It depends on how your dot's tactics are set. If you are on pure power running style, then your dot won't change direction very often. This means the vision check for changing direction is not initiated very often, making vision less useful than it would be for an elusive style which has far more frequent vision checks.

Originally posted by MARSHH

...defined combo-back.

If you are referring to the part where I said "Less Strength, More speed, maybe a bit more agility", then yes I was defining a combo back.

Originally posted by Beachsand DTD
Originally posted by Enders

57 speed is too much?

lol. Flip those numbers and it still isn't too much.

See exactly what are you looking for with a PHB.......


Me personally I would like to see 120 Strength, 80 agility, 80 Carrying, 69 Vision, 69 Confidence and 69 Speed PHB.....


Get those numbers and you should be decent......Of course those numbers are with EQ and not VA's counted....


That dot would suck at the higher levels. Who the hell wants to build a "decent" dot? 69 Speed? Are you kidding? Most high level D Line guys are at 69+ natural speed....

Consider who is going to be tackling you most. LBs, Safeties, and CBs. Do any of them have more than 90-100 STR typically? Nope.

So that's really all the strength you need. 120 str is overkill if you only have speed to 69.

What the hell do you need vision to 69 if your going to force yourself to run into defenders??

And your powerback being successful at lower levels means nothing bro.......

Originally posted by Enders
Originally posted by MARSHH


...defined combo-back.

If you are referring to the part where I said "Less Strength, More speed, maybe a bit more agility", then yes I was defining a combo back.

I would personally use a different method to differentiate between the builds. What I do is ask a question:

Does the HB look to break tackles or avoid them? And does he run on the power side or the elusive side?

Power = Break Tackles by running on the power side (Bruiser etc)
Combo = Break/Avoid Tackles by running on the elusive side (Slippery etc)
Elusive = Avoid Tackles by running on the elusive side (Fake SAs, Fake chance EQ)

I call my guy a power back because he has:

Bruiser
90+ Strength
75+ Carrying
And looks to break tackles by running on the power side.

However he still has 100+ speed.

Bo Jackson was a fast powerback.

In my eyes a powerback only needs 40 vision for SYM. You really won't need much more than capped b/c your forte is to plow through people.


Powerback = Strength>carrying>agility>speed
Comboback = Strength = speed >carrying>agility
Elusiveback = Speed>agility>carrying = vision


Something like that anyways. Some people have other opinions.

this HB has 90+ str, 75+ carry and 100+ speed?

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1263857

wru SAs?

Originally posted by whatje
this HB has 90+ str, 75+ carry and 100+ speed?

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1263857

wru SAs?

3-1-1-1-1

0 Surge

adding to those should net you a nice little improvement then

Originally posted by dviss1
Bo Jackson was a fast powerback.

How 'bout Ron Dayne back in college?

Originally posted by HATEMOBSTER
In my eyes a powerback only needs 40 vision for SYM. You really won't need much more than capped b/c your forte is to plow through people.


Powerback = Strength>carrying>agility>speed
Comboback = Strength = speed >carrying>agility
Elusiveback = Speed>agility>carrying = vision


Something like that anyways. Some people have other opinions.

You have 2 wrong for sure imo.

PB: Str>speed>carrying>agility (speed & carrying are close but speed should still be > carrying)
CB: Speed>strength>carrying=agility

EB I'm not as sure on but I'd probably say: speed>agility>>carrying=vision

Originally posted by Rashida
Originally posted by dviss1

Bo Jackson was a fast powerback.

How 'bout Ron Dayne back in college?

Dayne was slow in college. Simply a power back.