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Originally posted by domenick2x
Originally posted by Da Mean Mugga

What you did in AAA doesn't translate over to here and it never will. Besides, it's game 2, if you feel that you've accomplished a whole lot you should fall back and think about it for a minute. These are teams that have gone thru 34+ games in this league that you expect to take you guys serious. Respect is earned, you should know that, and until I see playoff berths and championships won you need to jump off the high horse.

Not to shoot fish in a barrel, but didn't those teams who've played 34+ games in the Pro League start there? So buying a team at the top is tougher than earning a way in? Or is 'playing well enough not to get relegated' better than winning a berth here?

Out of curiosity, did any teams that came up after season 1 get relegated after season 2?



No, but the former triple-A champion Washington Chairmen were just an average playoff team, not even close to being a champ up here. And regular season results mean little - we beat the Reapers in the regular season last year, but lost by one in the Alpha final to them.

Originally posted by originaljroc

No, but the former triple-A champion Washington Chairmen were just an average playoff team, not even close to being a champ up here. And regular season results mean little - we beat the Reapers in the regular season last year, but lost by one in the Alpha final to them.

So, what you are saying is, they were better than most of the league (see average team in the top half of the conference) that is not a bad team. I don’t think any of us NEW teams have made a serious post stating we will win it all, or that we are the best team. If we can make the playoffs and maybe win a game, we will be happy. I don’t think we (new teams) should be faulted for a little confidence. I do think we are good teams; we make the pro league allot better. Like it or not, I think all 4 are here to stay.

P.S. Mugga please don’t reply to this, save your condescending remarks for another post.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't Kazan Golden Horde 11-5 and Washington Chairmen 12-4 in this league last season?

The Burglars soundly beat those two teams already this season. It's not like we're beating up on cupcakes that barely escaped relegation.

And domenick is correct. It's not all that easy to promote to a higher league.

How many teams are in this league that feel they're a good team, yet they didn't make it to the championship game?

I can't speak for AAA #1, but the teams in this league had better be ready for any teams coming up from AAA #2 in the next few seasons. That was a competitive league.

Originally posted by domenick2x

Not to shoot fish in a barrel, but didn't those teams who've played 34+ games in the Pro League start there? So buying a team at the top is tougher than earning a way in? Or is 'playing well enough not to get relegated' better than winning a berth here?

Out of curiosity, did any teams that came up after season 1 get relegated after season 2?



I absolutely agree with what you're saying, it definitely is harder to earn your spot into the pro league than to have bought your way into it - hats off to you; however, I feel that would be a stronger statement if this were season 2 right now. It's not, there has already been teams that have been demoted for poor play, and the strong survived. What your arguing holds water, don't get me wrong, but as far as you being immediately respected for what you did in AAA well...it's not going to happen. When you jump up you jump up with a clean slate, and until you put up something noteworthy on that slate you won't receive the respect that the teams that have battled with the veterans of this league will get. You're green rookies, whether you want to look at it that way or not, and you have to prove your worth one more time. As for last year's AAA teams, most get my respect. Especially Washington, who proved to be a better team than the team I'm on. We're 0-1 to the Chairmen and they made it to the playoffs, I give them respect for that. They battled with us, won, and got a berth. You don't get that respect yet, and after this season you might depending on how each of you do. The next 4 teams that come in are going to be looked at the same way, and so on and so forth. You might not give a damn but that's just how it is, rook.

Originally posted by RaiderSGA


P.S. Mugga please don’t reply to this, save your condescending remarks for another post.


now see, that's childish and uncalled for. Don't try that tired psychology on me, I'm a bit smarter than that. I'm not trying to attack anybody in particular here so just save all that nonsense. Don't try to make me out to be this guy that hates on the new guys and thinks they can't accomplish anything. All I'm saying is they have to prove themselves, that's all. Being promoted from AAA doesn't cut ice here, I'm sorry. As for Washington, Washington isn't new anymore, they were new LAST season. They get my respect, they've been battle tested and my hats go off to them. As far as they go, it could definitely be argued that they're a better team than my team and that's being real about it. The longer you guys keep this AAA mentality the harder it will be on you. Look around you, where are you now? You're not in AAA anymore - stop dwelling on it.

The teams that got demoted to AAA will be cupcakes there too.

Seems to me a lot of guys still think because they bought the team when it was Pro, they have some bragging rights. Because you weren't one of the two worst teams in the conference?

I wish you'd just come out and say who you're talking about instead of beating around the bush?

and another thing - I never spoke out about or laughed at anybody for coming up in AAA. Some of your threads were generally funny, but I never came off as picking on the AAA guys. I had a few people say "oh, so you think yada yada can beat yada yada" and I never replied to any of that garbage. Do your research before you try to call somebody out, and if you're going to make an over-generalized statement just save it cause it makes you look either intimidated of misinformed.

I decided to take a break this offseason from the forums, so I'm not really sure who said what and all that. But the new teams have come in and played solid. You've got my respect in that department.

And Barger Hill, I'll respect you even more if you lose to us next game.

I said please, didn’t I Mugga? What is it going to take? I actually liked reading your posts allot better before you thought your opinion mattered.

Have a great day.
even you Mugga

Originally posted by Da Mean Mugga
Originally posted by domenick2x


Not to shoot fish in a barrel, but didn't those teams who've played 34+ games in the Pro League start there? So buying a team at the top is tougher than earning a way in? Or is 'playing well enough not to get relegated' better than winning a berth here?

Out of curiosity, did any teams that came up after season 1 get relegated after season 2?



I absolutely agree with what you're saying, it definitely is harder to earn your spot into the pro league than to have bought your way into it - hats off to you; however, I feel that would be a stronger statement if this were season 2 right now. It's not, there has already been teams that have been demoted for poor play, and the strong survived. What your arguing holds water, don't get me wrong, but as far as you being immediately respected for what you did in AAA well...it's not going to happen. When you jump up you jump up with a clean slate, and until you put up something noteworthy on that slate you won't receive the respect that the teams that have battled with the veterans of this league will get. You're green rookies, whether you want to look at it that way or not, and you have to prove your worth one more time. As for last year's AAA teams, most get my respect. Especially Washington, who proved to be a better team than the team I'm on. We're 0-1 to the Chairmen and they made it to the playoffs, I give them respect for that. They battled with us, won, and got a berth. You don't get that respect yet, and after this season you might depending on how each of you do. The next 4 teams that come in are going to be looked at the same way, and so on and so forth. You might not give a damn but that's just how it is, rook.


Well, as reigning champs, clearly you've got a chip on your shoulders that someone is going to have to knock off.

But let me understand: you bought into a league in season 1, and became champs in season 2.

It doesn't sound so different. Is the level of play higher in the Pros? Probably, and for 3 reasons - 1) the Pros were the first league, therefore the teams have nominally more experience up here, 2) I'd guess that the teams up here see more spending on their players than each successive layer down, and 3) there are already two seasons of relegation, so the bottom tiers of cupcakes have been culled.

So you want us to show you respect, but we have to earn that from you?

Fair enough. But when/if that happens, we (collectively) expect you to wax poetic on our behalf.

no chip, just a big target on the chest.

This league couldalways use more cack and balls...

...and more fruit drinks that contain less than 5% juice.

Further to my earlier point, I meant no disrespect to the Chairmen, who are one of the classiest organizations in this league. They made the pro league a tougher place to play when they were promoted, just as you newcomers have.
The point I was making is the best team in AAA last year made the final eight here ... and they didn't raise a trophy. That means it's a fact that the pro league is at a higher level than AAA. It's really not disputable, so there's no point to threads like this.
Besides, last year is last year, this is this year and you all are pros now. There's no point in denigrating a league that you're a part of.
The heart of the matter is you former AAA teams will be tested in ways you never have been before. You may very well end up passing that test with a trip to the championship game or you might not. Time will tell.
And, on the flip side, we won't have as many easy games this year and will be put to the test like never before, too.
Let the best team win.

Originally posted by originaljroc
Further to my earlier point, I meant no disrespect to the Chairmen, who are one of the classiest organizations in this league. They made the pro league a tougher place to play when they were promoted, just as you newcomers have.
The point I was making is the best team in AAA last year made the final eight here ... and they didn't raise a trophy. That means it's a fact that the pro league is at a higher level than AAA. It's really not disputable, so there's no point to threads like this.
Besides, last year is last year, this is this year and you all are pros now. There's no point in denigrating a league that you're a part of.
The heart of the matter is you former AAA teams will be tested in ways you never have been before. You may very well end up passing that test with a trip to the championship game or you might not. Time will tell.
And, on the flip side, we won't have as many easy games this year and will be put to the test like never before, too.
Let the best team win.



good post