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Originally posted by the hurricane
SA points over 10 are subject to diminishing returns. This is a known fact stated by Bort on many occasions. One of catch22's examples is that with a 20% bonus someone with 10 in the SA effectively has 12 in the SA. The archetype bonus is stated to be a flat percentage increase to the SA itself. The remaining SA rules have not been changed at all.

Therefore we know that if the SA level is pushed over 10 by the archetype bonus, that the diminishing returns kick in. There is no double counting of diminishing returns. The archetype bonus is a flat percentage that is the same for everybody. It's not like you get a smaller percentage increase in the level of your SA if you are over 10. The diminishing returns are for the impact of the SA, the part that actually matters. People push themselves over by choice. They still get some benefit. Its just less of a benefit on the margin then going from 1 to 2 or 9 to 10.

You are speculating.

There is no information suggesting that archetype bonuses are subject to diminishing returns.

I don't believe that a
Originally posted by the hurricane
flat percentage increase to the SA
Is the same thing as the SA level being literally modified to a different level.

Look at Slot Machine. Does that raise your SA level? Or does it just take the value your SA provides and modify it?

What happens when the SA is at 9 and you get a 20% increase? Your SA is now at 10.8? No. Catch was just giving you a round number to display the severity of the penalty/bonus.
If you have 20 in the SA and it applies a flat percentage increase, does it take the attribute's level to 24, each point of which suffers alleged diminished returns of the highest level, or does it simply take the value your SA provides and modify the outcome by 20%?

My guy is in a tough spot because he has a lot of FS, some QC, some RR, some sticky hands, and the slot machine VA. For non-slot guys I think Djinnt's theory is the most logical one, and I might still might go for Speedster since I just have more FS than RR and the Slot Machine vision bonus doesn't get affected.

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Originally posted by Djinnt
I don't believe that a
Originally posted by the hurricane

flat percentage increase to the SA
Is the same thing as the SA level being literally modified to a different level.

^this
everyone stop assuming shit