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TtD
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Originally posted by Djinnt
same vision, better tackler and stronger
less jumping, less SAs, WAY less agility.


Depends really on how your SS is going to be used, if your matching him up with speedster TEs in single coverage then the agility becomes far more valuable than strength.
 
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I would 74 cap speed. 68 cap agility because your already close mine as well cap it. then pump vision to 74.
 
Djinnt
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Originally posted by TtD
Depends really on how your SS is going to be used, if your matching him up with speedster TEs in single coverage then the agility becomes far more valuable than strength.


Unless your tactic is KL, not PD

the impression I get is that SAs dedicated to some specific function (like jumping catch for example, which we can assume aids you in catches that you have to jump for, or another is example would be monster hit, which modifies your tackle) increase the chance for that function to occur in the specific instance by some amount, and they also increase the primary related function by some degree in all cases

so as per my example, raising jumping catch will raise your basic ability to catch by some lesser degree than it improves your ability to catch when the ball is thrown where you'd have to jump to catch it. that makes really situational VAs like one handed catch more beneficial than just a chance for the one handed catch to occur
and it should also make VAs like monster hit, big hit, etc. improve your tackle score by some lesser degree than it does when those VAs "fire"
which means it will raise your ability to force fumbles, knock balls loose, decrease morale, etc, even without them firing.
Like I said, this is simply an impression I've gotten by reading various posts by bort
Edited by Djinnt on Mar 31, 2010 23:00:59
 
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My level 34 SS (haven't boosted him yet/nor have I chosen an archetype)

#38 Fana Chimes Jr. [rename]SS Height: 73in. (6'1") Weight: 221lbs
Created: Season 10, day 31 (Jul 20, 2009) - 169d old
Contract: $130,880.00/yr - Exp. season 15, Day 40 (No Trade)
Team: S.L. A.P.
Agent: Hitmang
Level Tackles Int Sacks
34/35556.29 0 0 0
Fame 406


Strength:22.55Blocking:14.89
Speed:97.55 (+16)Tackling:38.55
Agility:67.89 (+5)Throwing:8
Jumping:14.89Catching:14.89
Stamina:23.55Carrying:14.89
Vision:79.55 (+5)Kicking:8
Confidence:14.89Punting:8


Special Abilities | Veteran Abilities
Coverage Abilities 11111
Hard Hitter Abilities 00000

I got speed to 77
then vision to 74
will have 25 SP's (10 SP's on hand + 15 after 3 boosts)

Agility is at 62 and I'll get it to 68 (18 SP's) then 69 (as it's 99% trained).

Then I'll cap tackling with remaining 7 SP's plus 12 BT's to turn into 3 SP's.

 
dviss1
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Originally posted by Hitmang
My level 34 SS (haven't boosted him yet/nor have I chosen an archetype)

#38 Fana Chimes Jr. [rename]SS Height: 73in. (6'1") Weight: 221lbs
Created: Season 10, day 31 (Jul 20, 2009) - 169d old
Contract: $130,880.00/yr - Exp. season 15, Day 40 (No Trade)
Team: S.L. A.P.
Agent: Hitmang
Level Tackles Int Sacks
34/35556.29 0 0 0
Fame 406


Strength:22.55Blocking:14.89
Speed:97.55 (+16)Tackling:38.55
Agility:67.89 (+5)Throwing:8
Jumping:14.89Catching:14.89
Stamina:23.55Carrying:14.89
Vision:79.55 (+5)Kicking:8
Confidence:14.89Punting:8


Special Abilities | Veteran Abilities
Coverage Abilities 11111
Hard Hitter Abilities 00000

I got speed to 77
then vision to 74
will have 25 SP's (10 SP's on hand + 15 after 3 boosts)

Agility is at 62 and I'll get it to 68 (18 SP's) then 69 (as it's 99% trained).

Then I'll cap tackling with remaining 7 SP's plus 12 BT's to turn into 3 SP's.



Meh, he's just ok........

Actually Hit, I would take his agility higher than 69. At least to the 73 cap.
Edited by dviss1 on Apr 6, 2010 11:11:26
 
brendog1
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id cap speed at 80 then work on vision and or agility then strength(hard hitter) or tackeling
 
Djinnt
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Originally posted by brendog1
id cap speed at 80 then work on vision and or agility then strength(hard hitter) or tackeling


80 speed is a bit high with the new archetypes tbh.
Also, tackling>strength for a hard hitter. You also shouldn't do speed first for a hard hitter given the way their majors work out with training.
 
Hitmang
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Originally posted by dviss1
Originally posted by Hitmang

My level 34 SS (haven't boosted him yet/nor have I chosen an archetype)

#38 Fana Chimes Jr. [rename]SS Height: 73in. (6'1") Weight: 221lbs
Created: Season 10, day 31 (Jul 20, 2009) - 169d old
Contract: $130,880.00/yr - Exp. season 15, Day 40 (No Trade)
Team: S.L. A.P.
Agent: Hitmang
Level Tackles Int Sacks
34/35556.29 0 0 0
Fame 406


Strength:22.55Blocking:14.89
Speed:97.55 (+16)Tackling:38.55
Agility:67.89 (+5)Throwing:8
Jumping:14.89Catching:14.89
Stamina:23.55Carrying:14.89
Vision:79.55 (+5)Kicking:8
Confidence:14.89Punting:8


Special Abilities | Veteran Abilities
Coverage Abilities 11111
Hard Hitter Abilities 00000

I got speed to 77
then vision to 74
will have 25 SP's (10 SP's on hand + 15 after 3 boosts)

Agility is at 62 and I'll get it to 68 (18 SP's) then 69 (as it's 99% trained).

Then I'll cap tackling with remaining 7 SP's plus 12 BT's to turn into 3 SP's.



Meh, he's just ok........

Actually Hit, I would take his agility higher than 69. At least to the 73 cap.


Lol. Yeah forgot about taking agi to 74. Thanks for the reminder bro
 
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