I'm making an agility build. He's lvl 38 and has 91 agility and 98 speed, but the price I've been paying is that I'm just now about to cap his catching and vision. Even though he's having trouble catching the ball, with only 1 in juke from CEQ and 7 in head fake from CEQ+AEQ, you can see him definitely juking, faking, and getting separation from the CBs. I also have 10 in Quick Feet. I've got a +Fake Piece and am looking for another at the moment as he seems to be juking just fine even with only the 1 point and 43 vision.
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Lupin the 3rd knows how to fake: http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=993462&pbp_id=19442993
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Originally posted by HATEMOBSTER
Lupin the 3rd knows how to fake: http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=993462&pbp_id=19442993
Care to contribute any more than that?
Lupin the 3rd knows how to fake: http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=993462&pbp_id=19442993
Care to contribute any more than that?
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As in more replays or a build? lol For his build it's not too uncommon, I just read the description for each attribute and pumped which attributes it said help fakes.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=996587&pbp_id=21148734
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=996587&pbp_id=21146596
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=996587&pbp_id=21145089
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=996583&pbp_id=20313500
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=996583&pbp_id=20313867
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=996587&pbp_id=21148734
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=996587&pbp_id=21146596
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=996587&pbp_id=21145089
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=996583&pbp_id=20313500
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=996583&pbp_id=20313867
Edited by HATEMOBSTER on Jan 29, 2010 22:10:52
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Statistically, he broke a tackle on 50% of his touches. Most powerbacks don't get that many broken tackles. With the acceleration I see him getting after the reception, I think it may be something similar to what I plan to do, but I'm not expecting nearly as many streight up broken tackles as Lupin gets. I'm beyond the point where I have much room changing my guys build too much, I pretty much have to invest all of my SPs into catching and vision for the next 2 seasons to get him to a point where he can catch the ball effectively, but I'd be very interested to see how his build compares to Lupin's.
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The high agil high speed wr does not work well at all. My one test wr is in his 2nd to last season He has 110 spd 101agil. Maybe one day agility will do more for wrs but past 75-80 it is pointless.
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Originally posted by HATEMOBSTER
As in more replays or a build? lol For his build it's not too uncommon, I just read the description for each attribute and pumped which attributes it said help fakes.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=996587&pbp_id=21148734
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=996587&pbp_id=21146596
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=996587&pbp_id=21145089
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=996583&pbp_id=20313500
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=996583&pbp_id=20313867
Interesting stuff, I've rarely seen this many fakes from a WR.
As in more replays or a build? lol For his build it's not too uncommon, I just read the description for each attribute and pumped which attributes it said help fakes.
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=996587&pbp_id=21148734
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=996587&pbp_id=21146596
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=996587&pbp_id=21145089
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=996583&pbp_id=20313500
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=996583&pbp_id=20313867
Interesting stuff, I've rarely seen this many fakes from a WR.
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Well, I'm not retiring my WR yet. He looks promising so far. I've just begun to start working on his supporting skills and he has nothing in juke as of yet. Lupin seems to be a good example that fakes definitely work, at least in his league.
Edited by voltageaav on Jan 30, 2010 14:16:36
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Originally posted by HATEMOBSTER
Lupin the 3rd knows how to fake: http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=993462&pbp_id=19442993
I'm aiming for pre catch fakes like the one your guy did here
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=996583&pbp_id=20313500
Mind saying what his vision/carrying is?
Lupin the 3rd knows how to fake: http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=993462&pbp_id=19442993
I'm aiming for pre catch fakes like the one your guy did here
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=996583&pbp_id=20313500
Mind saying what his vision/carrying is?
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Originally posted by voltageaav
Well, I'm not retiring my WR yet. He looks promising so far. I've just begun to start working on his supporting skills and he has nothing in juke as of yet. Lupin seems to be a good example that fakes definitely work, at least in his league.
I'll tell you this, supporting skills are very important. Way more than you'd think. Canadian AAA isn't really a slouch league by any means. He had some good games vs good teams and some vs bad ones.
Originally posted by doubletree
I'm aiming for pre catch fakes like the one your guy did here
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=996583&pbp_id=20313500
Mind saying what his vision/carrying is?
66/61 I've got nothing to hide. He could obviously be made alot better. I was honestly going to retire him before last season. My advice for any WR owners: Make a plan for your guy and stick with it! It takes a long time for most WR's to become exactly what you want.
Originally posted by Maddog86
The high agil high speed wr does not work well at all. My one test wr is in his 2nd to last season He has 110 spd 101agil. Maybe one day agility will do more for wrs but past 75-80 it is pointless.
What is the rest of the build if you don't mind asking. Both those numbers are better than Lupin and he does pretty well imo.
Well, I'm not retiring my WR yet. He looks promising so far. I've just begun to start working on his supporting skills and he has nothing in juke as of yet. Lupin seems to be a good example that fakes definitely work, at least in his league.
I'll tell you this, supporting skills are very important. Way more than you'd think. Canadian AAA isn't really a slouch league by any means. He had some good games vs good teams and some vs bad ones.
Originally posted by doubletree
I'm aiming for pre catch fakes like the one your guy did here
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=996583&pbp_id=20313500
Mind saying what his vision/carrying is?
66/61 I've got nothing to hide. He could obviously be made alot better. I was honestly going to retire him before last season. My advice for any WR owners: Make a plan for your guy and stick with it! It takes a long time for most WR's to become exactly what you want.
Originally posted by Maddog86
The high agil high speed wr does not work well at all. My one test wr is in his 2nd to last season He has 110 spd 101agil. Maybe one day agility will do more for wrs but past 75-80 it is pointless.
What is the rest of the build if you don't mind asking. Both those numbers are better than Lupin and he does pretty well imo.
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Originally posted by HATEMOBSTER
Originally posted by voltageaav
Well, I'm not retiring my WR yet. He looks promising so far. I've just begun to start working on his supporting skills and he has nothing in juke as of yet. Lupin seems to be a good example that fakes definitely work, at least in his league.
I'll tell you this, supporting skills are very important. Way more than you'd think. Canadian AAA isn't really a slouch league by any means. He had some good games vs good teams and some vs bad ones.
Originally posted by doubletree
I'm aiming for pre catch fakes like the one your guy did here
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=996583&pbp_id=20313500
Mind saying what his vision/carrying is?
66/61 I've got nothing to hide. He could obviously be made alot better. I was honestly going to retire him before last season. My advice for any WR owners: Make a plan for your guy and stick with it! It takes a long time for most WR's to become exactly what you want.
Originally posted by Maddog86
The high agil high speed wr does not work well at all. My one test wr is in his 2nd to last season He has 110 spd 101agil. Maybe one day agility will do more for wrs but past 75-80 it is pointless.
What is the rest of the build if you don't mind asking. Both those numbers are better than Lupin and he does pretty well imo.
Thanks, what about his HF and JK?
And any AEQ with fake chance?
Originally posted by voltageaav
Well, I'm not retiring my WR yet. He looks promising so far. I've just begun to start working on his supporting skills and he has nothing in juke as of yet. Lupin seems to be a good example that fakes definitely work, at least in his league.
I'll tell you this, supporting skills are very important. Way more than you'd think. Canadian AAA isn't really a slouch league by any means. He had some good games vs good teams and some vs bad ones.
Originally posted by doubletree
I'm aiming for pre catch fakes like the one your guy did here
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=996583&pbp_id=20313500
Mind saying what his vision/carrying is?
66/61 I've got nothing to hide. He could obviously be made alot better. I was honestly going to retire him before last season. My advice for any WR owners: Make a plan for your guy and stick with it! It takes a long time for most WR's to become exactly what you want.
Originally posted by Maddog86
The high agil high speed wr does not work well at all. My one test wr is in his 2nd to last season He has 110 spd 101agil. Maybe one day agility will do more for wrs but past 75-80 it is pointless.
What is the rest of the build if you don't mind asking. Both those numbers are better than Lupin and he does pretty well imo.
Thanks, what about his HF and JK?

And any AEQ with fake chance?
Edited by doubletree on Jan 30, 2010 19:05:35
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HF 5 Juke 7 No adv EQ at all tbh lol. Went with a high speed and agility build like Maddog's guy before and he didn't perform b/c the supporting stuff was too low. Had a first step piece on him and decided to junk it and cash in the BT's for SP's. Did that with most of my high level guys actually.
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Originally posted by doubletree
I'm aiming for pre catch fakes like the one your guy did here
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=996583&pbp_id=20313500
Mind saying what his vision/carrying is?
I think that's Pump Fake, tbh.
I'm aiming for pre catch fakes like the one your guy did here
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=996583&pbp_id=20313500
Mind saying what his vision/carrying is?
I think that's Pump Fake, tbh.
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66/61 is definitely in the range I was hoping to hear. It's exactly the way I've been planning to take my WR's supporting skills and SAs. That makes me really excited about my WR's future. Thanks a lot.
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Originally posted by marcello
Originally posted by doubletree
I'm aiming for pre catch fakes like the one your guy did here
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=996583&pbp_id=20313500
Mind saying what his vision/carrying is?
I think that's Pump Fake, tbh.
I could be wrong but I thought that the QB moved the ball on a pump fake.
Originally posted by doubletree
I'm aiming for pre catch fakes like the one your guy did here
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=996583&pbp_id=20313500
Mind saying what his vision/carrying is?
I think that's Pump Fake, tbh.
I could be wrong but I thought that the QB moved the ball on a pump fake.
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