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Time to toss a reminder that this is an online Internet forum .

Originally posted by direfire
Time to toss a reminder that this is an online Internet forum .

Yay for more apathy/indifference.

Originally posted by Warlock
Yay for more apathy/indifference.

Let's get back on topic. What do you think of dive for 4 yards? And why do they even make quick cut available is there any reason for this SA?

I'm assuming dive for 4 yards is useless and power thru is the only SA worth getting for a pure offensive FB. If so have you calculated what caps a FB can get to and still get 10 in power thru. Also if you had to take one higher than the other would it be strength or carrying?

Thanks in advance for the info.

I view Dive 4 Yards similarly to Tenacious --- Unless you're getting 20+ touches a game there are more valuable SAs/VAs out there. However, if you've built a specialized fullback that gets the ball on Goal Line or 4th and 1 situations, and you've tailored other SAs to this function, it is probably useful after Power Through, Bruiser & Short Yardage Monster are capped.

If your speed is above 90, I think you'd find Quick Cut to be more useful than you think..even when running the ball. If you're building a Scat Back, I would suggest investing in Quick Cut.

I've got a 9 in power through and quick cut on one of my offensive fullbacks and have seen good cuts running and receiving.

Originally posted by direfire
Let's get back on topic. What do you think of dive for 4 yards? And why do they even make quick cut available is there any reason for this SA?

I'm assuming dive for 4 yards is useless and power thru is the only SA worth getting for a pure offensive FB. If so have you calculated what caps a FB can get to and still get 10 in power thru. Also if you had to take one higher than the other would it be strength or carrying?

Thanks in advance for the info.

Like Shull has already mentioned, D4Y gets more and more valuable as your number of touches increase... although, it has such a small value to begin with that those SP/AEQ can be spent elsewhere for a more noticeable benefit (barring 20+ touches a game on average).

Quick cuts is also a pretty good SA for any FB build... unless you already have 100+ speed and agility, then it's of minor benefit for the cost in SP/AEQ.

I would probably take strength higher than carrying. Strength has the added benefit of helping with blocks and helping power thru activate... carrying has the added benefit of fumble protection, but after a certain point, it's not as helpful as the extra strength IMO. I'm talking about once both attributes are over 80 though and not necessarily when both attributes are lower... carrying is probably better than strength early in the career of a HB, but not so much for a FB.

Finally, I wouldn't bother taking power thru to a natural 10, because of diminishing returns on SAs over 10. I think 8 is the best to take it to from an efficiency stand point... between CE and endorsements, it'll hit 10 fairly often anyways. As for caps, My little FB will hit 73 natural str/car/agi/spd when all is said and done (in that order), that's with 8 natural power thru... so strength will hit 90+, carrying will hit ~84, agility will hit ~75 and speed will hit 74 at plateau from ALGs and training roll-overs (all natural). That means that all my secondary attributes will only be trained though, so 1st capped (or a little higher) is probably the highest they'll see (stamina/confidence/vision). Catching and jumping might break 40 too, when all is said and done.

hes kind of useless until you get Carry up...