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No because you proved my point within your own "validation."

You show me a game of a terrible offensive coordinator allowing you to tee off on his Rushing QB?

Originally posted by Thunder66
I'm sure you might find a couple of examples of where QB runs got through my defense.

Assuming that you do not have every single play in your defense set up to be completely immune to the QB run (in which case good luck stopping a lot of other things) their will always be situations where the QB run will go for a big play, in which case how is it "easy" to stop. The fact that you have to consider the ability of every play on your defense to stop the QB run, I somehow don't see how it is "easy" to stop. I'm assuming that you mean it is easy to create a play which will specifically stop the QB run (Oh goodness, might as well tell us the grass is green too). Otherwise, you are just... wrong.

User Name: EatDaBeaver
Signed Up: Nov 11, 2009 17:25:48

So you've been on here a couple of months and you know all about peewee and QB runs in general.... Hmm either your a multi, or you don't know what your talking about (and I have given you evidence QB runs are easy to stop the majority of the time with HHM's D).

Originally posted by Thunder66

User Name: EatDaBeaver
Signed Up: Nov 11, 2009 17:25:48

So you've been on here a couple of months and you know all about peewee and QB runs in general.... Hmm either your a multi, or you don't know what your talking about (and I have given you evidence QB runs are easy to stop the majority of the time with HHM's D).



"The Majority of the time" - Win for me.

My old account was banned after being stolen, I am in the process of attempting to recover it now, thanks for your concern, I have been here since Day 3 of Season 1.

I got the runs because I ate too much chocolate and so my stomach hurts and there is nothing open today so yeah I can see why you might be angry.

Originally posted by Thunder66

User Name: EatDaBeaver
Signed Up: Nov 11, 2009 17:25:48

So you've been on here a couple of months and you know all about peewee and QB runs in general.... Hmm either your a multi, or you don't know what your talking about (and I have given you evidence QB runs are easy to stop the majority of the time with HHM's D).



Did a little bit of scouting on the 3 teams you do own.

One of your teams has seen 0 QB rushes in the regular season, the other giving up an average of 7 yards per QB rush, and the final an average of 1.92 yards and a single touchdown. The final being the only peewee team.

Is this good against the QB run as far as your quality of a DC, Yes. I don't question your abilities, I question the fact that even on your so called perfect defense why you still give up an average of 1.92 yards to a QB rush?

Originally posted by LordEvil
I got the runs because I ate too much chocolate and so my stomach hurts and there is nothing open today so yeah I can see why you might be angry.

Angry? Why must someone be "angry" to attempt to generate what is becoming a bit more of an intelligent discussion? I just want to discuss QB rushes, stop questioning my mood and or motivations, how many times must I answer to the same thing before you people will accept it?

I apologized for assuming that you intended to insult my players or my team, but it seemed like the only reason why you would want to know which team I was discussing.

Originally posted by EatDaBeaver
Assuming that you do not have every single play in your defense set up to be completely immune to the QB run (in which case good luck stopping a lot of other things) their will always be situations where the QB run will go for a big play, in which case how is it "easy" to stop. The fact that you have to consider the ability of every play on your defense to stop the QB run, I somehow don't see how it is "easy" to stop. I'm assuming that you mean it is easy to create a play which will specifically stop the QB run (Oh goodness, might as well tell us the grass is green too). Otherwise, you are just... wrong.



We'll I guess our defense must be getting torched by everything other then the QB runs then (since we must have sold out so heavily to stop them - cause its so hard an all....)

You have no clue what your talking about when you say they are not easy to stop, and then if you stop them you can limit other plays (you can, and we do.... hence the success).

Now I'm not going to argue something I have proven over the past 2-3 seasons, with someone who's either a multi or played this game for 2 months.

Those scouting things you use will get you burned

Your casting stats that don't mean much. You can see a avg of say 4 QB rushes for 90 yards when in fact a FS missed a tackle and they went for 99 yards on one play. The other 3 QB rushes went for -3 yards, -3 yards and -2 yards. The teams that actually buy into the scouting scripts of numbers alone get burned when they try to run them a dozen times a game only to find out they didn't get anywhere with them. Eventually a tired DB will miss a tackle.

Originally posted by EatDaBeaver
Did a little bit of scouting on the 3 teams you do own.

One of your teams has seen 0 QB rushes in the regular season, the other giving up an average of 7 yards per QB rush, and the final an average of 1.92 yards and a single touchdown. The final being the only peewee team.

Is this good against the QB run as far as your quality of a DC, Yes. I don't question your abilities, I question the fact that even on your so called perfect defense why you still give up an average of 1.92 yards to a QB rush?

I'm talking about HHM as thats the defense I do at present (69ers had no DAI for the first 5 games, and an average one after that), as for the casual team... its a farm team.

Now as for 1.92 yards a QB rush, I would call that perfected (1.92 x 4 = turnover on downs).

Originally posted by Thunder66
We'll I guess our defense must be getting torched by everything other then the QB runs then (since we must have sold out so heavily to stop them - cause its so hard an all....)

You have no clue what your talking about when you say they are not easy to stop, and then if you stop them you can limit other plays (you can, and we do.... hence the success).

Now I'm not going to argue something I have proven over the past 2-3 seasons, with someone who's either a multi or played this game for 2 months.

Well considering I already answered to your final statement I'll disregard your lack of intellect.

Did I say that you couldn't make a good defense that calls the correct plays at the correct time and outplay your opponents at any time? I don't see me saying anything related to that... 1.98 YPC may not be amazing, but it is obviously not 0, and you obviously didn't take debate while you were doing just about average in high school, otherwise you would attempt to bring supporting information in to an argument.

Please remember that although you are obviously perfect in every way you have yet to play a "perfect" offensive coordinator, I can assure you that their are plenty of ways to move the ball on your defense it is just a matter of finding them and the players executing. And before you go jumping off the deep end about how much better than everyone you are again, let me remind you I didn't anywhere claim I was better than you nor do I wish to discuss the topic.

I'll disregard your lack of intellect.

let me remind you I didn't anywhere claim I was better than you nor do I wish to discuss the topic.

Oh the Irony

Originally posted by LordEvil
Those scouting things you use will get you burned

Your casting stats that don't mean much. You can see a avg of say 4 QB rushes for 90 yards when in fact a FS missed a tackle and they went for 99 yards on one play. The other 3 QB rushes went for -3 yards, -3 yards and -2 yards. The teams that actually buy into the scouting scripts of numbers alone get burned when they try to run them a dozen times a game only to find out they didn't get anywhere with them. Eventually a tired DB will miss a tackle.

I would never rely on the scouting tool for any more than a quick piece of evidence that Thunder is obviously just a bit too big headed to have a conversation with.

Thanks for the advice however.

To your claim that blah blah blah x 4 = turnover, you are being illogical, a 1.94 average is not a good average nor did I claim it to be? I just said that due to its OBVIOUS easiness to stop I really don't see how you could give up such a health average!? I'm clueless, everyone knows that the average QB rushing stats should be -4 or more for any decent DC, what are you thinking at showing us that PATHETIC average.

Please god sense the sarcasm and understand that almost everything you've said besides the one sentence saying you disagree with me has actually been proof towards my argument.

The fact that you obviously prepare every defensive play you have for its ability to preform under its function as well as stop the QB rush PROVES that it is obviously not EASY to stop if it takes careful consideration of every plays design to balance the weight of the possibility of the QB rush occurring on that play. I've still yet to see you do anything besides work up a bit of meaningless anticipation for a point or some valid argument and follow through with your short little sentence of disagreement which you apparently seem to be hanging on to oh so tight.

Originally posted by LordEvil
I'll disregard your lack of intellect.

let me remind you I didn't anywhere claim I was better than you nor do I wish to discuss the topic.

Oh the Irony

Ooh, let me rephrase, never did I claim to be better than him* at Goal Line Blitz, intellect and debate are entirely separate issues.

Besides what else could be the reason for him completely restating his claim to my not knowing what I'm talking about to which I have already offered a pretty simply understood explanation?

Originally posted by EatDaBeaver

My old account was banned after being stolen, I am in the process of attempting to recover it now, thanks for your concern, I have been here since Day 3 of Season 1.

wow you said it so it must be true! ....I wonder if any other multi or new user has claimed something like this to gain the appearance of legitimacy? ...no that's new happened on here EVER, so I guess I'll just take you at your word then.

Originally posted by Thunder66
wow you said it so it must be true! ....I wonder if any other multi or new user has claimed something like this to gain the appearance of legitimacy? ...no that's new happened on here EVER, so I guess I'll just take you at your word then.

Ooh, so your opinion matters now?

When did that happen, you asked I told, did I ever imply I cared whether you "believed" me?

And what kind of pathetic excuse of a cop-out from an argument you have yet to make a point in is "You made your account after me, IMA 1337 MASTER don't question me~!"