If TKW is a slow build for HHW then how come TKW is still going? I understand that was probably the idea, but since TKW did so well, it's hardly considered a true slow build for HHW anymore.
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jktooley
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Originally posted by SLZmonster
If TKW is a slow build for HHW then how come TKW is still going? I understand that was probably the idea, but since TKW did so well, it's hardly considered a true slow build for HHW anymore.
It definitely was the original intention, but the team had such an easy time advancing through the ranks in SEA, that once they made the world league, all bets were off at that point... Better for them to just have 2 competitive teams and not fight the chemistry battle...
If TKW is a slow build for HHW then how come TKW is still going? I understand that was probably the idea, but since TKW did so well, it's hardly considered a true slow build for HHW anymore.
It definitely was the original intention, but the team had such an easy time advancing through the ranks in SEA, that once they made the world league, all bets were off at that point... Better for them to just have 2 competitive teams and not fight the chemistry battle...
Texan DTD
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Originally posted by jktooley
It definitely was the original intention, but the team had such an easy time advancing through the ranks in SEA, that once they made the world league, all bets were off at that point... Better for them to just have 2 competitive teams and not fight the chemistry battle...
Every team is comprised of agents, GMs and owners that are also active in other regions.
It definitely was the original intention, but the team had such an easy time advancing through the ranks in SEA, that once they made the world league, all bets were off at that point... Better for them to just have 2 competitive teams and not fight the chemistry battle...
Every team is comprised of agents, GMs and owners that are also active in other regions.
SLZmonster
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i'd have to disagree with their EASY road through SEA. They did make it to WL with a conference championship, but other then that, they didn't naturally promote through any of the AA, or AAA leagues. Not to take anything away from TKW, they are the premier team of SEA. I'm sure if you asked Daton he'd tell you that SEA was no easy road.
Troymk1
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Originally posted by jktooley
Congrats on your one example... Not to mention, 3 Kingdom is basically a USA Pro team that happened to have their slow-build in SEA
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WTF ??
Every team here JUST happened to go up through the SEA region.
What the fuck do you think we're doing here Dooley?
Sitting eating with chopsticks and wiping our ass with our left hands?
Feeling elitist about which server in Oregon your fictitious team of dots sits on? PRICELESS
Congrats on your one example... Not to mention, 3 Kingdom is basically a USA Pro team that happened to have their slow-build in SEA
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WTF ??
Every team here JUST happened to go up through the SEA region.
What the fuck do you think we're doing here Dooley?
Sitting eating with chopsticks and wiping our ass with our left hands?
Feeling elitist about which server in Oregon your fictitious team of dots sits on? PRICELESS
Troymk1
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As a PS SEA AAA was the most competitive league of any of the teams I have DCed for. (and a lot more mature)
MadCow420
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Originally posted by jktooley
Fair enough... However, once again, the numbers disagree.
World League Career (by Region - Overall)
119 - 37 - 0 ( 0.763 ) USAPL (10 team-seasons)
85 - 59 - 1 ( 0.590 ) CPL (9 team-seasons)
66 - 56 - 1 ( 0.541 ) SAPL (8 team-seasons)
60 - 61 - 0 ( 0.496 ) WEPL (8 team-seasons)
65 - 72 - 0 ( 0.474 ) SEAPL (9 team-seasons)
44 - 65 - 0 ( 0.404 ) EEPL (7 team-seasons)
34 - 56 - 0 ( 0.378 ) APL (6 team-seasons)
19 - 86 - 0 ( 0.181 ) OPL (7 team-seasons)
What's worse, is if you remove 3kW from the SEAPL rankings (once again... team is the slow build for HHW, so in essence, you're reaping the benefits of having a team representing your region that is owned and operated by 2 brothers that got their start in USA Pro) the SEAPL overall record would drop to a less than pedestrian 35-66 which is good for a .347 winning percentage. For the record, that would rank SEAPL second to last ahead of only the OPL, and behind the APL, which isn't even recognized as a true pro conference...
No one is saying the top teams fro USA, that make it to the w/l arent good, but the scraps that are left over in USA PL are the prob. USA is a full of a bunch of crap players that couldnt make it on the USA Pro mega merged teams. Unlike USA, SEA Pro isnt watered down with left over players, from left over teams,.... Congrats for being the oil floating on top of the USA Pro water
Fair enough... However, once again, the numbers disagree.
World League Career (by Region - Overall)
119 - 37 - 0 ( 0.763 ) USAPL (10 team-seasons)
85 - 59 - 1 ( 0.590 ) CPL (9 team-seasons)
66 - 56 - 1 ( 0.541 ) SAPL (8 team-seasons)
60 - 61 - 0 ( 0.496 ) WEPL (8 team-seasons)
65 - 72 - 0 ( 0.474 ) SEAPL (9 team-seasons)
44 - 65 - 0 ( 0.404 ) EEPL (7 team-seasons)
34 - 56 - 0 ( 0.378 ) APL (6 team-seasons)
19 - 86 - 0 ( 0.181 ) OPL (7 team-seasons)
What's worse, is if you remove 3kW from the SEAPL rankings (once again... team is the slow build for HHW, so in essence, you're reaping the benefits of having a team representing your region that is owned and operated by 2 brothers that got their start in USA Pro) the SEAPL overall record would drop to a less than pedestrian 35-66 which is good for a .347 winning percentage. For the record, that would rank SEAPL second to last ahead of only the OPL, and behind the APL, which isn't even recognized as a true pro conference...
No one is saying the top teams fro USA, that make it to the w/l arent good, but the scraps that are left over in USA PL are the prob. USA is a full of a bunch of crap players that couldnt make it on the USA Pro mega merged teams. Unlike USA, SEA Pro isnt watered down with left over players, from left over teams,.... Congrats for being the oil floating on top of the USA Pro water
creeker22
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What's worse, is if you remove 3kW from the SEAPL rankings (once again... team is the slow build for HHW, so in essence, you're reaping the benefits of having a team representing your region that is owned and operated by 2 brothers that got their start in USA Pro) the SEAPL overall record would drop to a less than pedestrian 35-66 which is good for a .347 winning percentage. For the record, that would rank SEAPL second to last ahead of only the OPL, and behind the APL, which isn't even recognized as a true pro conference...
Except it's not (well I can't say for sure it didn't start out that way but since about season 8 I know for a fact it wasn't). Their team that was in APL I believe was their farm team for HHW, not 3KW. I have never seen 3KW directly feed into HHW ever. Sure HHW started first but that doesn't mean that 3KW is in HHW's "farm system".
Except it's not (well I can't say for sure it didn't start out that way but since about season 8 I know for a fact it wasn't). Their team that was in APL I believe was their farm team for HHW, not 3KW. I have never seen 3KW directly feed into HHW ever. Sure HHW started first but that doesn't mean that 3KW is in HHW's "farm system".
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Originally posted by jktooley
Originally posted by SLZmonster
If TKW is a slow build for HHW then how come TKW is still going? I understand that was probably the idea, but since TKW did so well, it's hardly considered a true slow build for HHW anymore.
It definitely was the original intention, but the team had such an easy time advancing through the ranks in SEA, that once they made the world league, all bets were off at that point... Better for them to just have 2 competitive teams and not fight the chemistry battle...
such an easy time? They didn't win a SEAPL championship, they spent 2 seasons in SEAPL without much success...sure since it was an original "farm team" they most likely weren't trying for championships, but I think SEAPL was a p tough road for them and once the WL came into play they could be in the top league with that team, repping SEAPL, so there wasn't much use to farm them over to HHW.
Originally posted by SLZmonster
If TKW is a slow build for HHW then how come TKW is still going? I understand that was probably the idea, but since TKW did so well, it's hardly considered a true slow build for HHW anymore.
It definitely was the original intention, but the team had such an easy time advancing through the ranks in SEA, that once they made the world league, all bets were off at that point... Better for them to just have 2 competitive teams and not fight the chemistry battle...
such an easy time? They didn't win a SEAPL championship, they spent 2 seasons in SEAPL without much success...sure since it was an original "farm team" they most likely weren't trying for championships, but I think SEAPL was a p tough road for them and once the WL came into play they could be in the top league with that team, repping SEAPL, so there wasn't much use to farm them over to HHW.
Troymk1
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Originally posted by Troymk1
Feeling elitist about which server in Oregon your fictitious team of dots sits on? PRICELESS
Still shaking my head here
Feeling elitist about which server in Oregon your fictitious team of dots sits on? PRICELESS
Still shaking my head here
MadCow420
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Originally posted by tycoon34
such an easy time? They didn't win a SEAPL championship, they spent 2 seasons in SEAPL without much success...sure since it was an original "farm team" they most likely weren't trying for championships, but I think SEAPL was a p tough road for them and once the WL came into play they could be in the top league with that team, repping SEAPL, so there wasn't much use to farm them over to HHW.
This, they came out of no where to win Garuda... and have been dominate since then, And i notice the same GMs on Pro teams all over the W/L... means nothing
such an easy time? They didn't win a SEAPL championship, they spent 2 seasons in SEAPL without much success...sure since it was an original "farm team" they most likely weren't trying for championships, but I think SEAPL was a p tough road for them and once the WL came into play they could be in the top league with that team, repping SEAPL, so there wasn't much use to farm them over to HHW.
This, they came out of no where to win Garuda... and have been dominate since then, And i notice the same GMs on Pro teams all over the W/L... means nothing
Boomy DTD
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Originally posted by creeker22
Their team that was in APL I believe was their farm team for HHW, not 3KW.
This is correct. I played against Angola Dream in APL and they stated many times that was the farm club of HHW. Didn't even realize 3KW was connected to that org.
Their team that was in APL I believe was their farm team for HHW, not 3KW.
This is correct. I played against Angola Dream in APL and they stated many times that was the farm club of HHW. Didn't even realize 3KW was connected to that org.
MadCow420
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Originally posted by Boomy
This is correct. I played against Angola Dream in APL and they stated many times that was the farm club of HHW. Didn't even realize 3KW was connected to that org.
neither did i until they won lolaruda
This is correct. I played against Angola Dream in APL and they stated many times that was the farm club of HHW. Didn't even realize 3KW was connected to that org.
neither did i until they won lolaruda
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