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LordEvil
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Originally posted by Kaerey
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_awards.pl?player_id=1724310

yes, he's copper league, yes there are blow out games, but YES! He has returned vs. 2 Gold Teams.


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This Rushing QB Season 10 was ranked like 4th Global

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_awards.pl?player_id=1484312
Season 10, Pee Wee League #8 (Western)
Most Rushing Yards (8633)

Season 10, Pee Wee League #8 (Western)
Most Rushing TDs (172)

Season 10, Pee Wee League #8
Western Conference Offensive MVP

This was before the merger. So I look @ it like this. Season 10 was like playing in a Copper League for some teams.

Returner: Was in Top 10 Global
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player_awards.pl?player_id=1489359
Season 10, Pee Wee League #8 (Western)
Most Punt Return TDs (44)

Season 10, Pee Wee League #8 (Western)
Most Punt Return Yds (5667)

Season 10, Pee Wee League #8
Western Conference Special Teams MVP

But yeah, figuring in the competition and how they were used made a difference.
Good luck and enjoy your lolmvp trophy. You

They are fun to check out for a couple of days. Good luck and hope you get the #1. A good defense can get you some PR's to take to the house.


Note the QB Rushing Yards, when we had a record book in PeeWee. If I am not mistaken he broke the most yards from scrimmage rushing. (those were good time) For one season



Edited by Dtownokie on Nov 12, 2009 20:14:35
 
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Edited for double wammy!
Edited by Dtownokie on Nov 12, 2009 20:15:05
 
Kaerey
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Originally posted by juiceweezl


Don't start with me. I'm with Naimoli. I've had it with you Copper peeps thinking you're big time. You wouldn't return crap against either the unit I run for GLB or Snake runs for DSBM. There are several great returners out there.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=863213&pbp_id=8177990

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=863213&pbp_id=8181818



LOL now I'm one of those Copper Peeps? This just gets funnier. Maybe I should post the link to my Pee Wee Gold League Leading Receiver.
 
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My Punter returns Punts for TDs

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=863944&pbp_id=15247180
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=863944&pbp_id=15248382
 
juiceweezl
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Originally posted by Kaerey
LOL now I'm one of those Copper Peeps? This just gets funnier. Maybe I should post the link to my Pee Wee Gold League Leading Receiver.


Leading receiver is like saying best kicker this season. What's your point?
 
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Originally posted by digitalspirit
My Punter returns Punts for TDs

http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=863944&pbp_id=15247180
http://goallineblitz.com/game/replay.pl?game_id=863944&pbp_id=15248382


Thank you! Maybe we should make a thread calling this guy the greatest returner in all of GLB!!!
 
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Originally posted by juiceweezl
Originally posted by Kaerey

LOL now I'm one of those Copper Peeps? This just gets funnier. Maybe I should post the link to my Pee Wee Gold League Leading Receiver.


Leading receiver is like saying best kicker this season. What's your point?


I would love to claim I have the best kicker. if you would actually look at some of the games in Gold this season they are easily decided by field goals. In fact I actually have the #2 Ranked ST Kicker in Pee Wee Gold this season. And he has infact won a few games for the 12-2-1 Insane Asylum.

Please read all my posts before coming in here blasting me or my player. I never once claimed that anything related to my copper team was better then any other Gold or that if we were in Gold that we would be dominating because I know for a fact that isn't the case.

With all the gutting and CPUs in the higher level divisions, I am still extrememly impressed that there could be a Pee Wee Player Globally Ranked in the Top 5 of a category. If you don't agree, then get out of the thread. You are choosing to read it.
Edited by Kaerey on Nov 13, 2009 09:38:06
 
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Originally posted by juiceweezl
Leading receiver is like saying best kicker this season. What's your point?


I was thinking it was more like saying you're the smartest kid with down syndrome.....
 
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Originally posted by Dave Mr Majors
I was thinking it was more like saying you're the smartest kid with down syndrome.....


Better example. Thank you.
 
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Originally posted by Kaerey
I would love to claim I have the best kicker. if you would actually look at some of the games in Gold this season they are easily decided by field goals. In fact I actually have the #2 Ranked ST Kicker in Pee Wee Gold this season. And he has infact won a few games for the 12-2-1.

Please read all my posts before coming in here blasting me or my player. I never once claimed that anything related to my copper team was better then any other Gold or that if we were in Gold that we would be dominating because I know for a fact that isn't the case.

With all the gutting and CPUs in the higher level divisions, I am still extrememly impressed that there could be a Pee Wee Player Globally Ranked in the Top 5 of a category. If you don't agree, then get out of the thread. You are choosing to read it.


I don't know what players are global ranked at ST. Honestly, I would expect several Pee Wee guys to be up there from Copper and some of the bad Silver leagues. What you find is that returns are harder and harder to come by against better teams. You could swap that returner with several of the ones in Gold, and the former Gold returners would rank the same.

I guess what I'm saying is, yes, that's a nice ranking and probably a solid build. However, don't get caught up patting yourself on the back. The better sampling shows in your matchups against quality opponents. You have 1 punt return TD against a bottom half Gold team (BTW, even our returner has a higher average return against the same opponent) and a kick return against a Gold team in about week 2. Your stats are built against terrible Copper teams (yardage in Copper games: 602, 483, 599, 555, 736, 564, 523, 700,...). Surely you can't honestly believe you'd see those same results in a quality Silver league, much less Gold?

Okay, I'm done. Carry on with more, "This Copper player is the greatest EVAR!!!"
 
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Originally posted by juiceweezl

I don't know what players are global ranked at ST. Honestly, I would expect several Pee Wee guys to be up there from Copper and some of the bad Silver leagues. What you find is that returns are harder and harder to come by against better teams. You could swap that returner with several of the ones in Gold, and the former Gold returners would rank the same.

I guess what I'm saying is, yes, that's a nice ranking and probably a solid build. However, don't get caught up patting yourself on the back. The better sampling shows in your matchups against quality opponents. You have 1 punt return TD against a bottom half Gold team (BTW, even our returner has a higher average return against the same opponent) and a kick return against a Gold team in about week 2. Your stats are built against terrible Copper teams (yardage in Copper games: 602, 483, 599, 555, 736, 564, 523, 700,...). Surely you can't honestly believe you'd see those same results in a quality Silver league, much less Gold?

Okay, I'm done. Carry on with more, "This Copper player is the greatest EVAR!!!"


I fully expect that if that returner was on a gold team, Gold caliber players around him he would be one of the top returners in Gold as well. If you are going to go and start comparing stats of my copper team vs gold and your gold teams vs gold then yeah you're going to come off better because the players around the returners are better as well.

But I agree, I'm done too, Carry on with your "If it's not Gold, it's CRAP" attitude.
Edited by Kaerey on Nov 13, 2009 10:13:49
 
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Originally posted by Kaerey
I fully expect that if that returner was on a gold team, Gold caliber players around him he would be one of the top returners in Gold as well. If you are going to go and start comparing stats of my copper team vs gold and your gold teams vs gold then yeah you're going to come off better because the players around the returners are better as well.

But I agree, I'm done too, Carry on with your "If it's not Gold, it's CRAP" attitude.


Learn how to read and comprehend. Neither I nor anyone else said that your guy was "crap." We've all said that you have accumulated stats against some of the weakest opponents around. You're also completely changing your position as well. Saying he'll be one of the top returners in Gold and #4 overall global are entirely different worlds.

The whole point of your thread seemed to be, "Hey look at me. I can build a Pee Wee returner that's #4 returner in all of GLB!!!" All we said is basically, "Nice try but it's against weak Copper teams. The ranking is a bit skewed." Now you're saying that if he were in Gold that he'd have better players blocking for him -- why? Can't you put together a good team of blockers now? They get the same amount of SP and training as we get in Gold. All I know is that he'd face better players and coaching in coverage instead of that lame competition he's faced so far.

Look at this for two points to hopefully clarify at least my position. I'll give you two examples. My own returner is 5th in the ST MVP conference race. He's ranked # 4739 globally. The conference #1 is ranked #3552 globally. If you compare stats, the #1 guy in the conference has 39 KR's for 929 yards and 100 PR's for 1752 yards, 4 TD's, and a 17.5 average. By contrast, my guy at #5 has 36 KR's for 852 yards (0.1 yards difference in averages) and 76 PR's for 1228 yards, 2 TD's, and a 16.2 average. I can practically guarantee you that each of those guys would put up similar stats against the competition your guy has faced and achieve just as high of a ranking. However, in Gold they aren't in the top 3500 global rankings. It's just that much tougher in Gold in all aspects of the game.
 
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Hell, my HB was globally ranked #28 in offense, but I chalk that up to half my opponents in Copper being CPU teams and my HB's ability to run wild on them. I am not bragging about it, sad fact of the Pee-Wee system.

Personally, I think all CPU players on Pee-Wee teams should rank up just like human players. This way, you don't have the stat building games the 2nd half of the season like you see way too often.
 
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