Conference record would be cool, but it will likely be the same conference record as we are setup now since everyone plays the same 15 teams in a conference. The difference would be the out of conference game, and there is a good chance all teams would have the same record there. We would need divisions setup to accomplish this better. Then everyone in the division would play the same schedule, vs. every team in the conference. That is how the NFL is setup.
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Another thing that would help (as suggested by brad I think) would be to fix the cruise control so that you don't win games 300-0, instead it's more like 55-0.
It still wouldn't fix the gutting midseason issue, but it would help a bit.
But really, points scored as a second tiebreaker has always been a terrible idea.
Conference record second works okay, but I feel like there would still be too many ties (since you have basically the one conference).
How about record versus playoff teams? I think that would be a better measure of how good a team is. Maybe it can be the third tiebreaker (after HTH and conf record)
It still wouldn't fix the gutting midseason issue, but it would help a bit.
But really, points scored as a second tiebreaker has always been a terrible idea.
Conference record second works okay, but I feel like there would still be too many ties (since you have basically the one conference).
How about record versus playoff teams? I think that would be a better measure of how good a team is. Maybe it can be the third tiebreaker (after HTH and conf record)
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Originally posted by MattyP
Another thing that would help (as suggested by brad I think) would be to fix the cruise control so that you don't win games 300-0, instead it's more like 55-0.
It still wouldn't fix the gutting midseason issue, but it would help a bit.
But really, points scored as a second tiebreaker has always been a terrible idea.
Conference record second works okay, but I feel like there would still be too many ties (since you have basically the one conference).
How about record versus playoff teams? I think that would be a better measure of how good a team is. Maybe it can be the third tiebreaker (after HTH and conf record)
Cruise control doesn't really apply to GLB. It's already broken enough.
Another thing that would help (as suggested by brad I think) would be to fix the cruise control so that you don't win games 300-0, instead it's more like 55-0.
It still wouldn't fix the gutting midseason issue, but it would help a bit.
But really, points scored as a second tiebreaker has always been a terrible idea.
Conference record second works okay, but I feel like there would still be too many ties (since you have basically the one conference).
How about record versus playoff teams? I think that would be a better measure of how good a team is. Maybe it can be the third tiebreaker (after HTH and conf record)
Cruise control doesn't really apply to GLB. It's already broken enough.
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Originally posted by Iceman16
Originally posted by MattyP
Another thing that would help (as suggested by brad I think) would be to fix the cruise control so that you don't win games 300-0, instead it's more like 55-0.
It still wouldn't fix the gutting midseason issue, but it would help a bit.
But really, points scored as a second tiebreaker has always been a terrible idea.
Conference record second works okay, but I feel like there would still be too many ties (since you have basically the one conference).
How about record versus playoff teams? I think that would be a better measure of how good a team is. Maybe it can be the third tiebreaker (after HTH and conf record)
Cruise control doesn't really apply to GLB. It's already broken enough.
CRUISERING, WHATS YOUR PRICE FOR FLIGHT~
Cruise control can get taken out now that ending energy is reste, it was a fix for teams who were underenergized back in the day after facing a what what in the gut.
Originally posted by MattyP
Another thing that would help (as suggested by brad I think) would be to fix the cruise control so that you don't win games 300-0, instead it's more like 55-0.
It still wouldn't fix the gutting midseason issue, but it would help a bit.
But really, points scored as a second tiebreaker has always been a terrible idea.
Conference record second works okay, but I feel like there would still be too many ties (since you have basically the one conference).
How about record versus playoff teams? I think that would be a better measure of how good a team is. Maybe it can be the third tiebreaker (after HTH and conf record)
Cruise control doesn't really apply to GLB. It's already broken enough.
CRUISERING, WHATS YOUR PRICE FOR FLIGHT~
Cruise control can get taken out now that ending energy is reste, it was a fix for teams who were underenergized back in the day after facing a what what in the gut.
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Tie-breakers should be:
1. Head-to-head
2. Conference record
3. Point margin in head-to-head games
4. Point margin in conference games
5. Non-conference strength of schedule
6. Whatever
1. Head-to-head
2. Conference record
3. Point margin in head-to-head games
4. Point margin in conference games
5. Non-conference strength of schedule
6. Whatever
TrevJo
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Originally posted by datongw
I just think point differential (margin of victory) is a better tie breaker than points scored. For example, the old Ravens didn't score a lot of points, but they won a lot of low scoring games by playing tough D, in the current system, they would lose out to a team that put up lots of points but also give up a lot of points. To me, a 9-3 win is just as good as a 48-42 win.
The Ravens actually accomplished a rare feat by scoring more than twice as many points as they allowed. I think point ratio (PF/PA) would be a good substitute for point margin (PF-PA). p much anything is better than using points scored.
I just think point differential (margin of victory) is a better tie breaker than points scored. For example, the old Ravens didn't score a lot of points, but they won a lot of low scoring games by playing tough D, in the current system, they would lose out to a team that put up lots of points but also give up a lot of points. To me, a 9-3 win is just as good as a 48-42 win.
The Ravens actually accomplished a rare feat by scoring more than twice as many points as they allowed. I think point ratio (PF/PA) would be a good substitute for point margin (PF-PA). p much anything is better than using points scored.
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Originally posted by MattyP
How about record versus playoff teams? I think that would be a better measure of how good a team is. Maybe it can be the third tiebreaker (after HTH and conf record)
Really ugly when the tiebreakers determine who is and isn't a playoff team - basically useless. Point differential within the tied teams makes the most sense to me. It's not perfect, but it's a lot better than what we have. If the tie matters, then none of the tied teams should be gutted. You could still construct a corner case where a playoff contender guts mid-season and gets into a 3-way tie for 8th. If they've only played one of two other teams post gut (and obviously beat the other team pre-gut), then the point differential will be out of whack. I saw something similar happen in the old A league days, but it seems to be much more of a corner case than the current system.
So tiebreaker could be:
H2H record
Conference record (won't break many ties, but should be there)
H2H Point differential
H2H Points scored
...
and then move on. H2H yards gained, maybe, and then just coinflip? You could (almost) completely remove the impact of the mid-season guts.
How about record versus playoff teams? I think that would be a better measure of how good a team is. Maybe it can be the third tiebreaker (after HTH and conf record)
Really ugly when the tiebreakers determine who is and isn't a playoff team - basically useless. Point differential within the tied teams makes the most sense to me. It's not perfect, but it's a lot better than what we have. If the tie matters, then none of the tied teams should be gutted. You could still construct a corner case where a playoff contender guts mid-season and gets into a 3-way tie for 8th. If they've only played one of two other teams post gut (and obviously beat the other team pre-gut), then the point differential will be out of whack. I saw something similar happen in the old A league days, but it seems to be much more of a corner case than the current system.
So tiebreaker could be:
H2H record
Conference record (won't break many ties, but should be there)
H2H Point differential
H2H Points scored
...
and then move on. H2H yards gained, maybe, and then just coinflip? You could (almost) completely remove the impact of the mid-season guts.
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Originally posted by TrevJo
Originally posted by datongw
I just think point differential (margin of victory) is a better tie breaker than points scored. For example, the old Ravens didn't score a lot of points, but they won a lot of low scoring games by playing tough D, in the current system, they would lose out to a team that put up lots of points but also give up a lot of points. To me, a 9-3 win is just as good as a 48-42 win.
The Ravens actually accomplished a rare feat by scoring more than twice as many points as they allowed. I think point ratio (PF/PA) would be a good substitute for point margin (PF-PA). p much anything is better than using points scored.
Originally posted by datongw
I just think point differential (margin of victory) is a better tie breaker than points scored. For example, the old Ravens didn't score a lot of points, but they won a lot of low scoring games by playing tough D, in the current system, they would lose out to a team that put up lots of points but also give up a lot of points. To me, a 9-3 win is just as good as a 48-42 win.
The Ravens actually accomplished a rare feat by scoring more than twice as many points as they allowed. I think point ratio (PF/PA) would be a good substitute for point margin (PF-PA). p much anything is better than using points scored.
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Originally posted by TrevJo
Tie-breakers should be:
1. Head-to-head
2. Conference record
3. Point margin in head-to-head games
4. Point margin in conference games vs. teams with winning records/playoff teams
5. Non-conference strength of schedule
6. Whatever
FYP
Tie-breakers should be:
1. Head-to-head
2. Conference record
3. Point margin in head-to-head games
4. Point margin in conference games vs. teams with winning records/playoff teams
5. Non-conference strength of schedule
6. Whatever
FYP
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