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billthekill
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Originally posted by CG
Yeah this to me is the biggest reason to go for confidence. I'm not as concerned with a 50 yard average as I am with consistently getting coffin corners.


Only problem with this is that I don't think Confidence does anything (or very little) for coffin corner kicks either.

I think the formula for a good coffin corner kick is Super high Punting , Vision, and Nail in the coffin (VA).
 
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Originally posted by cabz
i am of the belief that confidence is much more important than strength. this is my lv 41 punter, just now started touching strength and he does just fine. many coffin corner kicks. two touchbacks for the whole year.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1400078



Iv'e counted 6 Touchbacks (out of 49 punts)

12:20 4th & 6 OWN 47.5 Punt by Happy Longfeet, 53 yds (touchback)
6:54 4th & 21.5 OWN 47 Punt by Happy Longfeet, 53 yds (touchback)
8:50 4th & 14.5 OWN 49.5 Punt by Happy Longfeet, 51 yds (touchback)
7:064th & 11 OPP 45 Punt by Happy Longfeet, 46 yds (touchback)
11:28 4th & 7 OWN 39 Punt by Happy Longfeet, 62 yds (touchback) <<<<<This one is still a good punt even with the TB.
3:44 4th & 7 OPP 48.5 Punt by Happy Longfeet, 49.5 yds (touchback)

Overall your punting from the Coffin Corner territory - Opponent 45 and closer.
20 Punts overall

Great Punts
Pinned the team inside the 5 yard line: 6 times
Very Good punts
Pinned the team between 5.5 to 10 yard line: 1 time
Good punts
Pinned the team between 10.5 to 15 yard line: 3 times

Bad punts
Punted to outside the opponents 15.5 yard: 5 times
Punted touchbacks: 5 times


I'm not saying your punter is bad, and he is only a level 41.
But, his coffin corner punting is not as you advertised.


Edited by billthekill on Nov 13, 2009 13:49:14
 
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How about you show us scifres' build? We can compare/contrast to my level 58 punter which is a better comparison. As far as game scout is concerned our punters were close to equal:


P Bill Scifres
Punts: 62
Yards (w/o TBs): 2918
Avg: 47.1
Net: 39.8
Long: 67
TBs: 3 (4.8%)
In 20: 29 (46.8%)

P Kin Korn Karn ( http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=680447 )
Punts: 44
Yards (w/o TBs): 2114
Avg : 48.0
Net: 39.5
Long: 74
TBs: 3 (6.8%)
In 20: 30 (68.2%)


The Inside 20 number probably is worthless since Karn's team was 11-5 vs 9-7 (i.e. he punted a lot from inside opponent's territory)
 
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Originally posted by TheGreatPuma
How about you show us scifres' build? We can compare/contrast to my level 58 punter which is a better comparison. As far as game scout is concerned our punters were close to equal:



Bill Scifres
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=490431
I don't consider him to be an elite punter at all. This being one of the 1st players I've ever built, there are some mistakes on how he is built.


Not a drastic difference from your Punter:

......................Bill Scifres..........................Kin Korn Kam

Strength: ......78.07.......................................73.07
Speed...........38.6............................................49.64
Agility: ............41.6........................................58.64 (+2)
Jumping:..... .63.26.....................................49.64
Stamina:...... .26.75.....................................28
Vision: ...........68.4........................................71.74
Confidence:.. .69.13..................................87.56 (+1)
Punting:......... 130.13 (+38)......................136.93 (+38)

Veteran Abilities is basically the same
SA difference is Big Boot 19 for Bill Scifres and 10 for Kin Korn Kam

As far as tatics goes, Bill Scifres Punting Style is set at +20 (towards Hang Time).



I am not advocating anyone to build your punter like Bill Scifres because there are mistakes. He is Ok but, could be much better.


This is my pet project for building an elite punter
http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1175532
Higher Strength Punter. Not finish building him yet. I'm going to start rounding of his build next season.
(sorry, not going to share his build)







Edited by billthekill on Nov 13, 2009 17:05:27
 
cabz
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Originally posted by billthekill

Iv'e counted 6 Touchbacks (out of 49 punts)

12:20 4th & 6 OWN 47.5 Punt by Happy Longfeet, 53 yds (touchback)
6:54 4th & 21.5 OWN 47 Punt by Happy Longfeet, 53 yds (touchback)
8:50 4th & 14.5 OWN 49.5 Punt by Happy Longfeet, 51 yds (touchback)
7:064th & 11 OPP 45 Punt by Happy Longfeet, 46 yds (touchback)
11:28 4th & 7 OWN 39 Punt by Happy Longfeet, 62 yds (touchback) <<<<<This one is still a good punt even with the TB.
3:44 4th & 7 OPP 48.5 Punt by Happy Longfeet, 49.5 yds (touchback)

Overall your punting from the Coffin Corner territory - Opponent 45 and closer.
20 Punts overall

Great Punts
Pinned the team inside the 5 yard line: 6 times
Very Good punts
Pinned the team between 5.5 to 10 yard line: 1 time
Good punts
Pinned the team between 10.5 to 15 yard line: 3 times

Bad punts
Punted to outside the opponents 15.5 yard: 5 times
Punted touchbacks: 5 times


I'm not saying your punter is bad, and he is only a level 41.
But, his coffin corner punting is not as you advertised.


i had to open my mouth, huh! i got two in the last game today. must have missed the other one.

but thanks for breaking that down for me! much better analysis than i am willing to do.

looks like i need to work on confidence some more, huh?
Edited by cabz on Nov 13, 2009 17:40:24
 
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Originally posted by billthekill

(sorry, not going to share his build)







 
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Originally posted by cabz
i had to open my mouth, huh! i got two in the last game today. must have missed the other one.


Oh yea, that's my bad.

Last game should have counted for the TB totals.


 
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