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Originally posted by Robbnva
maybe even do a baseline test again.


 
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Originally posted by Dave Mr Majors
Would it help to be in any sort of format or program to more easily implement it into the test server?


no idea.

I know I would be more than willing for the greater good of pee wee, help out on the test server as Darkus is busy and I am not.
 
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Yeah those builds kind of render the test pointless, the WRs should be 30+ catching and the QBS 30+ throwing at least. Passing isn't broken because we throw our SP out randomly and don't train.

It would be better to test with level 4-7 ish builds cuz no one is expecting great things in the first 3-4 games.
 
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Originally posted by Robbnva
Originally posted by Dave Mr Majors

Would it help to be in any sort of format or program to more easily implement it into the test server?


no idea.

I know I would be more than willing for the greater good of pee wee, help out on the test server as Darkus is busy and I am not.


 
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Originally posted by Fumanchuchu
Yeah those builds kind of render the test pointless, the WRs should be 30+ catching and the QBS 30+ throwing at least. Passing isn't broken because we throw our SP out randomly and don't train.

It would be better to test with level 4-7 ish builds cuz no one is expecting great things in the first 3-4 games.


It looks like the players in the test had no SP assigned.

I don't care if passing is broken at level 1, I'd like the tests to be run using level 4 players with SP assigned.
 
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Originally posted by Fumanchuchu
Yeah those builds kind of render the test pointless, the WRs should be 30+ catching and the QBS 30+ throwing at least. Passing isn't broken because we throw our SP out randomly and don't train.

It would be better to test with level 4-7 ish builds cuz no one is expecting great things in the first 3-4 games.


Lol, isn't that where the whole issues started though, oh my bad, it started in the pre-season..
 
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I believe 3 of the best passing teams in season 10 were KC Llamas, Short Bus and Dharma.

Our Wrs had 40 strength, 50 catching, 30 speed, 25 or so agility and 25 plus in vision no special SA's. We trained speed and agility and dump all our skill points in strength and catching. All EQ was in strength. They caught the ball very well. Our Hbs and FBs only need to get to 17 to start catching balls with 17 catching. At 22-25 they were catching over 60%. Our TEs were about the same as the WRe though they had more Strength than catching.

I would test WRs with 30 strength, 30 catching 20 speed and 15 vision because around level 5-8 thats about what they are
 
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It is pretty strange that they chose to use level 1 rolls for the test. I wouldn't even mind testing in the 5-8 range, but 1 is a bit silly to even consider.
 
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Originally posted by LordEvil
I believe 3 of the best passing teams in season 10 were KC Llamas, Short Bus and Dharma.

Our Wrs had 40 strength, 50 catching, 30 speed, 25 or so agility and 25 plus in vision no special SA's. We trained speed and agility and dump all our skill points in strength and catching. All EQ was in strength. They caught the ball very well. Our Hbs and FBs only need to get to 17 to start catching balls with 17 catching. At 22-25 they were catching over 60%. Our TEs were about the same as the WRe though they had more Strength than catching.

I would test WRs with 30 strength, 30 catching 20 speed and 15 vision because around level 5-8 thats about what they are


That sounds good, for test purposes, but I'm sure that's not the average per say for everyone(sarcasm), but somewhere to start for sure..
 
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but isn't the goal of improving pee wee passing, to not have to soft-cap catching from the beginning
 
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Right, that's why about 30 at levels 5-8 is about right, I guess.. And same with QB, about 30 in STR, THROW, CONF and VIS.. sounds about right..
Edited by BobbyCox4Pres. on Nov 2, 2009 14:09:01
 
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Originally posted by Robbnva
but isn't the goal of improving pee wee passing, to not have to soft-cap catching from the beginning


I would say yeah, but you shouldn't be able to ignore it and still expect to catch well.
 
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They need to input builds like this:

Passing QB: 61 Throwing, 35 Strength, 30 Vision
Receiving WRs/TEs: 50 Speed, 50 Catching, 25 Vision, 20 Jump

Something along those lines that are a bit closer to like a Level 12 Pee-Wee Player that is built for 1 season.
 
Robbnva
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so here is what i am thinking for a level 4ish pee wee player

QB - throwing to 48
typical Speed HB - 48 to 52 Speed
typical power HB - 48 to 52 strength
Typical pee wee FB - Speed 40
O-Line & Blocking TE should all have about 50 Strength
typical receiving TE & WRs - 30 speed/catching

D-Line the school of though varies but for the test

DTs - Strength to 50
DEs - Speed or agility to 50 (need help with this one)
LBs and DBs, I have no clue really as everyone does it different.


Edited by Robbnva on Nov 2, 2009 14:14:16
 
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Originally posted by Robbnva
so here is what i am thinking for a level 4ish pee wee player

QB - throwing to 48
typical Speed HB - 48 to 52 Speed
typical power HB - 48 to 52 strength
Typical pee wee FB - Speed 40
O-Line & Blocking TE should all have about 50 Strength
typical receiving TE & WRs - 30 speed/catching

D-Line the school of though varies but for the test

DTs - Strength to 50
DEs - Speed or agility to 50 (need help with this one)
LBs and DBs, I have no clue really as everyone does it different.




I know for test purposes, sure.. But for league averages, kidding right, lol.. IMO, this is probably why we are going through all this..
 
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