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Underdawg08
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Originally posted by merk
Originally posted by TheInstantClassic

So have I..Which is why I am lead to believe that he makes some builds to fail(Like a small 245 pound DE).

Including my new DE.


I'm wondering that on my lower lev 56 DE (weighs 246) who can't even get near the QB.

Attributes
Physical Attributes
Strength: 71.06
Speed: 97.24
Agility: 105.5
Jumping: 24.56
Stamina: 34.25
Vision: 53.56
Confidence: 34.56

Football Skills
Blocking: 21.56
Tackling: 37.06

Special Abilities
Pass Rusher Abilities
First Step: 12
Change Direction: 5
Shed Blocks: 7
Tunnel Vision: 9
Big Sack: 1

Additional Abilities
Blitz: 4
Veteran Abilities
Heavyweight: 5
Jump the Snap: 15
Pass Rusher: 15

If I ever build a DE again, he won't weigh less than 270.


Less JTS and Pass rusher. More quick(15) and more heavy wieght(15) more shed blocks(10+), 9 more str. bring your speed down to 85-90 and Bring str to 75-80 and the rest in agility and you pwn.
Edited by UnderDogs on Aug 20, 2009 17:02:56
Edited by UnderDogs on Aug 20, 2009 12:08:36
Edited by UnderDogs on Aug 20, 2009 12:07:50
 
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UD got it right pretty much...But I'm still lead to believe that Bort sets some builds up to fail
 
merk
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Originally posted by UnderDogs
Less JTS and Pass rusher. More quick(15) and more heavy wieght(15) more shed blocks(10+), 9 more str. bring your speed down to 85-90 and Bring str to 75-80 and the rest in agility and you pwn.


I could see if his team was willing try something very similar:

* he hits lev 56 in another ~10 days. At that point his EQ upgrades give him about as much agility as 15 points of quick would

* He currently has 2 fully upgraded aEQ that give him +4 blitz and +4 FS (both are upgraded to be +speed).

* Swap the +FS aEQ for his +1 SB or +2% break block aEQ. And have the new piece be plus STR instead of plus speed. That ups his STR by 8 points by lev 56 at the cost of 7 points of speed.

* He's working on adding more heavyweight
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The real question is do you believe a 250 lb DE will be allowed to shed many blocks?
 
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X-factor is non existent in this prototype.
 
merk
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Originally posted by misled
X-factor is non existent in this prototype.


Dang...and to think, I went for the Y factor instead.
 
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Originally posted by merk
I could see if his team was willing try something very similar:

* he hits lev 56 in another ~10 days. At that point his EQ upgrades give him about as much agility as 15 points of quick would

* He currently has 2 fully upgraded aEQ that give him +4 blitz and +4 FS (both are upgraded to be +speed).

* Swap the +FS aEQ for his +1 SB or +2% break block aEQ. And have the new piece be plus STR instead of plus speed. That ups his STR by 8 points by lev 56 at the cost of 7 points of speed.

* He's working on adding more heavyweight
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The real question is do you believe a 250 lb DE will be allowed to shed many blocks?


since you have only one blitz piece, wouldn't you rather swap out the blitz for SB and keep the FS? are there any other attributes with any of those pieces?
 
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Neither piece has any other attributes. My thinking was that he's built more to shed blocks. I didn't think that he 13 points of FS would help that much. He does have a piece of +1 TV aEQ. I could check on using the TV and SB aEQ. That would change his SAs from:

12, 5, 7, 9 (+4 blitz)

to

8, 5, 11, 13
 
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Thanks for the help guys, im in the process of switching some agility equipment into speed. Alot of my agility is coming from AE though. So am I better off with a piece that gives shed block or break block percentage?
 
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Originally posted by JBrown5390
Thanks for the help guys, im in the process of switching some agility equipment into speed. Alot of my agility is coming from AE though. So am I better off with a piece that gives shed block or break block percentage?


As I see your DE now he has 91 agility and 95 speed. Strength at 74. This is perfect! SAs look good also. Now bring vision to 68. Set on pass focus.

As he gets more upgrades for equipment you want to add too speed.

But this alone will get you only a few sacks in a season. Your DC needs to............
 
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that build isnt going to work. Anything less then 100 agility is a crapshoot waiting to happen..your guy would do better with 110 agility 70 to 80 speed and 85+ strength..i believe that the size of a player matters..so being small he would need a little less speed and more strength..whats the point of having that much speed if he doesnt have the strength or agility to break a block when hes caught. And shed block piece is better
Edited by TheInstantClassic on Aug 23, 2009 00:50:21
 
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Originally posted by merk
I could see if his team was willing try something very similar:

* he hits lev 56 in another ~10 days. At that point his EQ upgrades give him about as much agility as 15 points of quick would

* He currently has 2 fully upgraded aEQ that give him +4 blitz and +4 FS (both are upgraded to be +speed).

* Swap the +FS aEQ for his +1 SB or +2% break block aEQ. And have the new piece be plus STR instead of plus speed. That ups his STR by 8 points by lev 56 at the cost of 7 points of speed.

* He's working on adding more heavyweight
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The real question is do you believe a 250 lb DE will be allowed to shed many blocks?


He does not need agility. He has enough. The more vision in a DE the faster he gets off the LoS. He does not need strength. Unless he is playing LE. And heavyweight should not be used by a DE. Get rid of the blitz and get 1st step or change direction. Forget about that break block crap.

Basically everything you just said is wrong.

Vets should be Brick Wall, Helmet Crash, Pass Rusher and Power Tackle.



 
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Originally posted by TheInstantClassic
that build isnt going to work. Anything less then 100 agility is a crapshoot waiting to happen..your guy would do better with 110 agility 70 to 80 speed and 85+ strength..i believe that the size of a player matters..so being small he would need a little less speed and more strength..whats the point of having that much speed if he doesnt have the strength or agility to break a block when hes caught. And shed block piece is better


Na agility is overrated in a DE. Vision is underrated.

http://goallineblitz.com/game/player.pl?player_id=1159336

Strength:
55.1
Blocking:
16.03
Speed:
102.1
Tackling:
42.1
Agility:
76.1
Throwing:
10
Jumping:
19.03
Catching:
9
Stamina:
19.03
Carrying:
10
Vision:
56.03
Kicking:
9
Confidence:
31.03
Punting:
10

Players sacks were from LE just to see if I could do it w/o getting pancaked. It worked. Agility is at 76 w/o equipment. All you need. If this was a LE then strength would be 102 and speed would be abt 68.





 
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lol you have no clue how to build just so you know... that is the build you see tear up the gutted teams for 20 sacks a game then get shut out against good teams..and just gets laughed at in pros as your de cant even make one sack against a lot with 10 protect and cant even make one tackle and fyi if you ask anyone one with a good de and knows how to build... heavyweight is a must for a de... maybe not so much with rde but still usefull then half the crap you listed...
 
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Originally posted by TheInstantClassic
lol you have no clue how to build just so you know... that is the build you see tear up the gutted teams for 20 sacks a game then get shut out against good teams..and just gets laughed at in pros as your de cant even make one sack against a lot with 10 protect and cant even make one tackle and fyi if you ask anyone one with a good de and knows how to build... heavyweight is a must for a de... maybe not so much with rde but still usefull then half the crap you listed...



huh? 1st off my DEs are run stoppers and they did the job needed. The season one of my pro DEs played RE he had 65 sacks. This season that player was just moved to RE and I expect about the same. 2nd I have never seen 20 sacks on my pro team. And heavywieght is crap! Id rather FFs or demoralize. If you knew how to build a line man you would not need heavyweight. Plus any moron that thinks he needs 100 agility and heavyweight really is not worth talking too.Plus your pro team is 0-3. Hmmm and your step dad does not have enough money to give you too spend money on this game.

Tell ya what. Ask our pro owner if he would like to scrimmage and I will show you how my DEs will stop your pro team. And my NT will just down right wipe you guys out.







 
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lol...mole rats arnt my team its owned by a friend..and funny how your des dont do either... they dont stop the run or rush the passer...you brag about a 60 sack season yet take notice that bort fixed stupid all speed build he hasn't done shit... do me a favor talk to me when your de can even come close to mine
 
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